7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Cooper112][quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Cooper112]Gragas has been dead for a while sucks he was one my best champions when he was both mid and top laner. T hey need to fix some his early mana issues.[/quote] Personally, I think it is fine for him to have mana troubles; players should be punished for not using their skills optimally. However, I do not support the reduced barrel damage on minions. Not only does it needlessly complicate the ability as a whole, but it also makes it next to impossible to farm properly.[/quote]Yea true if they just revert q damage to minions he will be good pick.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Vorcia]IMO rocket jump's damage is negligible on AD trist's lane. The time it takes to cast the jump would probably negate the damage it does since you could've just autoattacked during the cast time. Jayce is a really strong pick top for sure, never played him mid so I wouldn't know about that. Don't listen to Wingsofdeath, he's a good player but a lot of his theorycrafting is straight up bad. An MS bonus in a small radius for a defensive zone is definitely a nerf to Akali. Part of Azir's problem is an overwhelming number of bugs that still remain unfixed, its not just that he's hard to play.[/quote] To be fair in theory akali is better before level 6 and better in lane. Her main problem in lane was it was hard to proc her q now she can with MS burst from w. Question is the trade off worth it or will she die so easy now even if q is easier to get off.[/quote]

[quote=Azhag][quote=Mooninites]I wouldn't consider [[nunu]] jungle gamebreaking OP. It has more to do with your own individual skill, plus I think it's pretty difficult to carry as [[nunu]]. Basically you have to entirely shut down the enemy jungle which is hard to do every single game. He offers very little damage and is a decent tank. More of a utility jugnler that relies on his teammates late game, which can be bad if your team gets behind. Doesn't seem like there is a S3 [[Zyra]] type of champion right now[/quote] Sure, i have the same ideas. He have a great kit that should work well in team ranked or competitive play, but it wouldn't work in solo queue where you will depend from your teammates that could play pretty bad. Also i think that he isn't a playmaker and his skillcap is below average.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Ryze]] has a very low skillcap yet I think he's really good for solo queue and competitive play. Skill cap does not necessarily make a champion good or bad.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Mooninites][[Ryze]] has a very low skillcap yet I think he's really good for solo queue and competitive play. Skill cap does not necessarily make a champion good or bad.[/quote] It's more about how difficult it is to utilise a champion, and that's not equivalent to skill cap.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I mean, a champion's skillcap doesn't actually matter... right up until the moment that it does - if you know what i'm saying. For instance, if you look at someone like [[orianna]], it is quite difficult to play her well. However, after you study her playstyle enough, something will just kinda 'click', and you'll learn how to hit good ults. I'm not sure if i'm making any sense right now[/quote]

[quote=Azhag]Yeah,but choosing a main champion with high skillcap is more interesting, otherwise it gets boring after a thousand game. I played [[evelynn]] for around 100 games and really get bored, because it's not a playmaker and really low skillcap, you just spamming your Q from game to game and nothing else at all. On the other hand is [[lee sin]], that with enough skill can make an epic plays etc., you know. But i am really confused choosing bettwen champions to play, cause i am not skilled enough for Lee and mastering him will take so much time, i also can't play glass-cannon character, so i tried to choose someone tanky with a great utility, [[Nunu]] fits the requirements well, but, nevermind, i am speaking too much offtopic, lol :D[/quote]

[quote=utopus][url=http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=hansonyo]Sure evelynn's a playmaker![/url] I do admit that it's a different kind of playmaking though.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]I have not liked eve since nerfs she seem so weak early on and bets really low clearing even if she has op passive.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]ive gotten shit on by nientonsohs azir in soloq, but every other azir ive seen has done nothing. think hes just really hard but i think hes good, still gonna keep him unplaced for now[/quote]