OTG's SoloQ Tier List (Patch 4.20)

[quote=OTGBionicArm]It's more about her massive utility that goes along with hr potent poke. Her ultimate and shield/etc are ridiculous.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=utopus]In the last inhouse, moon killed it with his [[annie]], so I figured that she deserves to at least be on the support tier list[/quote]I don't mean to be rude, but of course he did. He was playing with someone he plays with constantly against two people who never play bot lane together who had a bot lane combo that with no particular synergy, even if you ignore the blatant difference in ranking between some of the people involved that was unlikely to end well for their opponents. I agree that she should be added, but that game is a bad example given the circumstances.[/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=OTGBionicArm]It's more about her massive utility that goes along with hr potent poke. Her ultimate and shield/etc are ridiculous.[/quote] Are they? I have had times where I shield and ult myself once my adc has died to make sure his sacrifice wasn't for nothing but otherwise I almost never see Lulus and I'm almost never scared of Lulu supports. I like her alot the first time I played her, but I feel like there are better supports/top mages than her. Edit: Also, since they reduced the scaling slow on her Q it's tremendously less helpful.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I see [[lulu]] quite often. And while I'm directly afraid of her. I'm afraid of how she turns team fights. That shit wins games.[/quote]

[quote=Hatted]Good point, using that ult in a clustered teamfight can both save your adc and discombobulate the enemy team. I feel like I don't see her enough to be afraid of her. And if it is Lulu top I feel the team might then lack damage. Unless it's an Annie or Morg support. In which case, might need more ad.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]I don't get how [[shaco]] is tier 2 when he is everything you want on a jungler right now: he pressures where most other junglers don't, he has incredible level 2 invades on the enemy jungler, he can pressure and steal really hard, he can help control dragon easily and he can pressure the entire map powerfully. Lategame, you either team fight or split push, and split pushing right now is retarded easy because towers up until nexus towers are weaker than ever. Also, saddens me to see [[swain]] at tier 3 when he actually benefitted from the lowered jungle pressure and does well against at least half of the picks above him uu[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=FalseoGod]I don't get how [[shaco]] is tier 2 when he is everything you want on a jungler right now: he pressures where most other junglers don't, he has incredible level 2 invades on the enemy jungler, he can pressure and steal really hard, he can help control dragon easily and he can pressure the entire map powerfully. Lategame, you either team fight or split push, and split pushing right now is retarded easy because towers up until nexus towers are weaker than ever. Also, saddens me to see [[swain]] at tier 3 when he actually benefitted from the lowered jungle pressure and does well against at least half of the picks above him uu[/quote] I'm iffy about raising shaco higher. I'll need to see him more than me playing himself. As for [[Swain]], he could indeed use a bump up. And maybe an addition to top lane? Nvm he's already there.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote]see Swain at [/quote] How the heck did that happen on your quote thingy oo Btw, league as it is now feels pretty "bleh" to me, non-nexus towers are so weak most junglers are utility bots. I'm surprised people aren't just playing tryndamere and pushing every single lane in 3 auto-attacks.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Yea it feels really weird right now.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]This may be shocking, but some of us actually like utility junglers.[/quote]