I agree with you, the Q first is good, but I do still want this guide to maintain it's niche and I totally think for it to work the way I play it you need to max W first. On the second note: I totally agree with you on the Liandry's Torment. I think I ran a few games with it first and when creating the guide I got too stuck with trying to make the build different when Liandry's is such a powerful item on Elise. So I'll probably make that change and give my reasoning for wanting to go FH after completing the Jungle item. Kind of what I was hoping for out of a comment, bring me back to reality. heh. Usually I don't finish Liandry's and just hold onto Haunting Guise until after FH, though.

Thanks for the BB code link, haven't messed with anything phpbb in a long time so I was trying to give the meat and potatos route a go before I made it more bark then bite.

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I'd tend to max Q first until level 9 and then go for W until level 13.
It says you will explain why rushing FH directly after the jungle item but there isn't such infromation in the guide so far, it's trap.
Sunfire Aegis is pretty meh most of the time and Liandry's Torment or Void Staff are generally the best damage options as she her damage increases by building MPen over AP.