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- Wise Owl
Sorry for the late reply, some synergies for Zilean would be: Jinx, Jhin, Ashe, and any other champions that can take advantage of locking down enemies with their own slows/stuns, and then Zilean can build on it.
Thanks,
- Wise Owl
I do like the idea of focusing more on rounding out what Zilean lacks as a support, mostly healing with Font of Life. If you don't land stuns you're not going to be much of a use anyway, at least in my experience, so your teammates healing off of attacking enemies could be a big help. This might pair especially well with Ashe and Kai'Sa who can either give their AS a massive boost or abilities that hit enemies a lot at once.
Sorry for the late reply, thanks for the comment though, you've made a very good suggestion in giving Zilean a tankier/heal focused build. I will have to test it out in league and see if it would make a solid alternative build for him. The long term strategy might be viable as it relies on Zilean's late game strengths.
Thanks again for the suggestion, I'll see how it goes!
- Wise Owl
I'm not sure I agree though with leveling 'E' before 'W'. With 'W' maxed, youc an spam out your stun combo, but if you wait till almost lvl 18, you'll be doing about half as many stuns. With 1-2 levels in 'E', you can usually speed up your ADC to kite or slow your fleeing foe down enough without the extra three levels. I also wrote an AP Shyvana Guide if you're interested in checking it out :). Here's the link: https://loldata.info/champion-guide/ap-shyvana/
One more thing, I never played encahnter supports but I know that some of them used to take the item named Ardent Censer and I can't see you mentioning him anywhere, is it somehow good on Zilean or not?
Saw what you meant with E and W, I made a recent change to my levelling and forgot to edit that part, so thank you for pointing it out. To clarify I now level W before E in preference, it will be in my guide now.
In terms of Ardent Censer, it has changed a bit over time, but at its current position it can work with the build quite well, I'd put it in place of something like Shurelya's Reverie. It has AP, Mana regen, Cooldown Reduction, Movement Speed and also increased healing/shield power. While Zilean only heals with his ultimate when reviving, the Summon Aery rune sends shields to an ally you target with your E, so it can be effective. I'd give it a go, and I'll have a look at it in depth for my guide possibly.
Thanks,
Wise Owl
At your request I checked out my ability order, and as far as I can see it goes Q,W,E,Q,Q,R for the first six levels on the first page. Unless it is hidden somewhere specific in my guide I cannot see it anywhere, sorry.
Let me know if you know where about on my guide it is if you can.
Thanks,
- Wise Owl
By level 8 it'd force you to put a point in either W or E and Q would be unavailable to be levelled, it's a mechanic to stop you from quickly maxing a single ability and had me really conmfused as to what to level because the guide was saying "level Q" but I couldn't
All fixed now in my guide hopefully, thanks again for spotting that.
- Wise Owl
I just wanted to point out that you have Nimbus Cloak before they changed the speed buff to correlate to summoner spells not ultimate activation.
Love the Guide
Thanks for the tip, got it fixed up now.
Thanks,
- Wise Owl
I remember when Summon Aery first came out I had the same idea and incorporated both items into my build. After many patch notes and suggestions I gradually changed from the healing and protecting approach to a more damage-orientated item build. Overall I like to think my guide has a balanced approach to damage and supporting so that it accommodates most play styles. In brief, your idea is fantastic if it's working for you, I found great success with those items for a while. So it's definitely worth it, keep using Zilean how you like!
Thanks for asking,
- Wise Owl
Is just wanted to let you know that there's a minor update you need to make on your guide.
In the build with your items there's a note at the part of the 'early items' that says "Tear of the Goddess for that mana. Boots with the runes we take will be available after 10 minutes."
So I am assuming you had
I know it is a very very small think but I just wanted to let you know to improve your guide even more! ^^
As always, big fan of your guide, keep up the amazing work!
~ Kaji ~
Thanks for letting me know about that, I did indeed have Magical Footwear at one point. I never would have noticed the mistake so thank you for bringing that up!
Thanks again and I'm glad you're keeping an eye on my guide,
- Wise Owl
- Wise Owl