Jungle Olaf Low Lev Strategy

[quote=MrBucketz]Hey guys, I'm a low summoner level, and I've spent the last 24 hours or so palying games trying to figure out a way to make jungle olaf work. I love playing olaf at high levels so I just wanted to figure out a way to be able to jungle effectively for those first 3-4 levels. It's not very fast, I usually am mid level 5 when the duo lane hits 6, but because olaf is such a good farmer, I usualyl catch right up, plus i have pretty good gold from the jungle. I'm gonna outline some stuff about what I do, and then you tell me what you think could help: 1. I know its hard and alot of people say stupid to jungle at low level, but I really am trying to pull it off. 2. I go with heal and smite. I wish I could carry ghost, but the heal really comes in handy those first 3 levels, probably could'nt get off to an effective start w/o it. The only way I could see this working is if I could get a laner to tank the blue buff at start, then blue pill and regen - but without actual teammates i know that's pretty unlikely. 3. My course is: I start at blue golem if I can get at least 1 teammate to help out. I use my smite and heal there typically. I then take care of wolves and by this point I probly am using 2 of my heal pots. Take out the banshees with another smite and health pot. Then I head over to their jungle and take out wraiths and golems. After that, blue pill back and hopefully have enough for razors, after which i try to get buffs and make a gank. (If I can't get teammates to help, I basically have to just go wraiths, wolves, enemy wraiths, enemy golems, enemy wolves) Any suggestiions for this? 3. I also know that people say level 10 runes are dumb. But heck, I have tons of IP, why not take a small advantage when I can? What runes would you get? (armor pen, attack speed, something else?) 4. Same question for masteries. I'm at level 12. I definitely want the smite and heal ones I guess, and I get the armor ones. After those should I just load up on util? 5. Items: I get cloth armor and 5 pots, first trip back I make razors. Its a delay then, but I typically get wriggles first and then berserker greaves. After that frozen mallet. (I keep not being able to decide what to get after the mallet - i go back and forth between atma's and warmogs...but maybe it should be something else? I think that's all my questions! Don't harass me too much for trying it out! I really have been helpful to my team late game, I do pretty good burst, and I have had some decent ratios. Let me know what you think![/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Heal+Smite is fine if you really want to low-level jungle. Try this route, it may be more reliable: Cloth Armor+2 Pots Start at small golems, kill them (use Smite), kill wraiths, then wolves. Recall back, buy a Long Sword (or Boots and more health potions, I haven't tested this yet). Kill blue buff, then wolves>wraiths>small golems>lizard Then you can gank or do wolves>wraiths>small golems again to get to level 6. Masteries - you need at least 10 in utility. The increased experience gain is a MUST, or else you won't level from killing the golem/lizard/small golems spawns. Then you'll want to prioritize that increased buff duration mastery. I'd say put the last two into improved Heal and Smite. I wouldn't advise level 1 runes. With the available rune slots you have, it really won't make a huge difference at all.[/quote]

[quote=MrBucketz]Hey thanks Jebus - you're all over my Olaf questions. I LOVE playing him late game - your rec was golden[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Glad I could help. ^_^[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Jebus, there's one very big problem with what you're suggesting. The first part of your jungling is mirrored. It's supposed to be: Wolves->Wraiths->Golems->Recall->Blue->Wolves->Wraiths->Golems->Red Red and golems at the end can switch places. The way you suggest the wolves wouldn't spawn until after a good while forcing him to wait for no real benefit. Also; don't Smite any wolves, save it for the big wraith.[/quote]

[quote=MrBucketz]Didn't want to have to start a new thread even though this is a little different question. I have really been happy with the results I've been getting from using Olaf today. Apart from jungling, after I get lantern and merc treads or berserker greaves, I have been building, in order: Frozen Mallet, Atma's, and Warmogs. By that point the game is usually over - if not, I grab a Youmuu Ghostblade. However, I have been doing my research, and see that Lilballz and Kobe24 really always seem to get things like Banshee's Veil and Randuin's Omen. I just feel like Atma's works so well for Olaf when he is dishing out more damage cuz of his health, and warmog's and mallet help to keep that health high. I'm just curious, do you think Omen and Banshee's Veil would work better? I trust that these guys know, but I'm having trouble seeing why it would be better.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]@Searz: Surprisingly, wolves still manage to spawn in time after you clear blue buff. At least it does on most sustained junglers. I may be wrong about Olaf. @MrBucketz: Experiment a bit with getting HoG early and building a late-game Randuin's, Banshee's Veil, and Atma's. Warmog's isn't a terrific item and you may have more luck with other options.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Jebus McAzn] Surprisingly, wolves still manage to spawn in time after you clear blue buff. At least it does on most sustained junglers. I may be wrong about Olaf.[/quote] Wat? Mention any jungler and I can promise you that I'll jungle fast enough to force me to wait for wolves. It's not even about speed. The only things you'll do after killing wolves the first time are recall, run back and kill blue. That's like 1minute max. Forcing you to wait at least 15seconds unless you're very slow.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Atma all the way. That's how Olaf gets his tanky DPS.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]First of all, he's low level. Therefore he WOULD be very slow. :P If you're finding that you have to wait a bit for wolves, there's always the wraiths-wolves-double golem-recall route, but that is a bit riskier.[/quote]