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Master Yi - Vampiric Scepter vs Phantom Dancer...

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SO, i kinda play Yi as a jungler because I think he does best in jungle.

A friend of mine (level 23) has a friend with 1200wins...i repeat 1200 wow he must be pro (attention:sarcasm)

So he plays Yi on lane like his friend suggested.
First rush a phantom dancer, then two...TWO vampiric scepter and then infinity edge. I wanted to tell him that two vampiric scepters with 117AD (which he had at that time) equaled kinda like 24 HP per hit.... A minion does more damage than 24 HP. >.>

Some say that it's the best to rush infinity then phantom dancer.

So as a jungler I kinda rush wriggles then one or two phantom dancers. I feel like I really need the movementspeed and the attackspeed they offer.

So my actual question is:
Are two Vampiric Scepters really worth it on lane Yi after phantom dancer?

His reasoning was, that, after his lane enemies would be ganked, they would be dead and or injuried enough to teleport back. In that time he would heal enough to be back to full HP.

Theoretically I would, if i ever play lane yi, max Q first then W with one early point in E. Because the damage from E 1-2-3 is minimal, while W actually gives you great tankability and surviability. I would simply wait till they dished out their CC, for example Taric stun, then W immidiatly after I get attacked. I would have enough regen and mr/ar to tank long enough, so that my lane mate could deal some serious damage.

So again: Are two Vampiric Scepters worth it...i mean....24 health..>:>
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I would say, it's ok simply because of how well master Yi sticks to targets. I wouldn't recommend it though as it's giving you nothing in terms of damage output.
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Try starting with vampiric scepter when jungling. You might need AD quints for it to work tho.
After Wriggles you don't need any lifesteal.
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Nope. Two Vampiric isn't good, it would be better if he would've purchased BF sword straight, if possible, instead of 2 Vampiric Scepters. However, he can buy one though(assuming he didn't buy a vampiric scepter already from early game).
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Wriggles - Youmuu

Youmuu > PD.
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Wriggles - Youmuu

Youmuu > PD.


Youmuu on CD < PD
Youmuu active > PD
Youmuu ended < PD

I hate youmuu for first item, if you don't have it on, you don't have AS...

I would love to learn Yi or Sion AD... but I have a very hard time laning Yi and jungling his ganks aren't very good... And he seems to be too weak on teamfights, I already thought on building 3 vampiric scepter -> bloodthrister + wriggles + Starks

IDK, I'm not good with him D':
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Another advantage that Youmuu has over PD is that you can get an early Avarice which goes a long way, especially on jungle Yi. The fast Brutalizer is also very powerful.

Personally I prefer what Dante builds. Wriggle's-Youmuu's and then maybe I-Edge or Triforce.
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I'd wait with Ghostblade until you get some damage. Damage->ArP is usually the way to go.

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It's different with Master Yi though because Wuju Style is ridiculous.
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Ah, tru dat.
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