Throatslasher's Solo Queue Tier List

[quote=Pheyniex]it's funny to see champs in top tier when they can be just shutdown by counterpicking.... <.<[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Inferiae] One of the best tier lists I've seen :) being primarily a jungler myself I have a few things I'd like your opinion on. You list strong counter junglers like [[Mundo]] and [[Shyvana]] as tier 1 on a solo queue tier list, I have real problems carrying games in solo queue with counter junglers, it's not uncommon for me to get FB on their jungler and deny him his own jungle, only to still find I'm unable to influence the lanes sufficiently if they're losing due to the weak nature of their ganks Compare this to say an [[Amumu]] who grants me the ability to put kills on a plate for my team mates and I'm interested as to your viewpoint Also I have a bit of a soft spot for jungle [[Riven]] and I'm interested in your viewpoint of her at your level of play, from my perspective she doesn't get the love she deserves, great clear times, mobility, superb ganks from level 3 and strong all game with the potential to snowball, what in your eyes holds her back from being seen in competitive play? Thanks in advance for your response :) [/quote] [[riven]] at my level? not very good. jungle [[riven]] 0-1400 elo? pretty strong. If you don't like mundo/shyvana ganks, pack exhaust. Also, you can spend the entire game in their jungle. If you make their jungler ragequit, you win. Mundo has strong ganks, imo, with exhaust cleavers and red buff.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]mundos ganks are good with exhaust, but thats a long cooldown for a gank, and hes shutdown hard by wards. if your team doesnt follow just once when your clearing wards with orcs and you die you are in deep trouble.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Dying with [[dr. mundo]] is pretty hard to accomplish, much like dying with [[nunu]].[/quote]

[quote=Inferiae][quote=throatslasher][[riven]] at my level? not very good. jungle [[riven]] 0-1400 elo? pretty strong. If you don't like mundo/shyvana ganks, pack exhaust. Also, you can spend the entire game in their jungle. If you make their jungler ragequit, you win. Mundo has strong ganks, imo, with exhaust cleavers and red buff. [/quote] Oh I love [[Shyvana]] and [[Mundo]] in coordinated teams, and naturally I run exhaust, yet I still find their ability to influence the lanes in solo queue lacking compared to other :([/quote]

[quote=Chie]Why is [[Darius]] T3?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]im curious to know what you build on jungle j4.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=H4xDefender] im curious to know what you build on jungle j4. [/quote] Always 2 gp10 to start, and i go from there. does our team need dps? brutalizer. does our team need tank? aegis. do we need FH? i'll get fh, etc. I just build according to the team. I don't like darius jungle, even less in solo queue. I think he's one of those champs that benefits so much from top farm and solo xp that it's a shame to jungle him. I also think he's a retardedly strong lane bully all game, so why take him out of top?[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]shaco<pantheon wat? wat? wat? ALL my wat? and then one more WAT? for good measure Tristana tier <3 Why anivia so low? it's almost impossible to loose a game once you got her wall at level 4-5 turtling ability too stronk mang(comming from a guy with 49% winrate anivia - i'm such a scrub) Corki tier 2? i'd definately switch urgot n corki around.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]Pantheon has a higher capacity to carry. anivia is low because turtling does not equal carrying. I find corki difficult to play when you have a braindead team that doesn't know how to peel, and he doesn't have the lane dominance of ezreal and graves, or the range/tankiness to stay safe in teamfights.[/quote]