17.2 PBE Patch Notes

[quote=caucheka][quote=omagma] He needed a nerf. You cant really blame Riot. [/quote] yeah, because they were the ones who overbuffed him in the first place.[/quote]

[quote=omagma]So? they are simply correcting a mistake. I don't get why you are so pissed about it.[/quote]

[quote=albableat]Doesn't really sound like an Olaf buff to me... Sweet looking changes to [[undertow]] and meanwhile a hardcore ult nerf...[/quote]

[quote=omagma]"hardcore" is the wrong term. Olaf´s ult really shined when fighting champions like [Icon = Swain] or [Icon = Cassiopeia] because his ult countered there dots. Whit these changes to his ult, he will have a more "reliable" defensive stat. This also changes the way you build Olaf. Since, now that he gain defensive stats for free.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Changing him to fit the changing meta :) That AD ratio's pretty damn nice. Maybe getting AD would make him a lot stronger now[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]As someone who's played Shen for 300 or more games, he is ridiculously overpowered at the moment and he'll still be very strong with those nerfs. I'm hopeful that this time Riot can actually balance him properly and make it so that I can play Shen without being useless and without him getting banned or called OP, since those are pretty much the only two phases Shen ever goes through. More likely they will just half-ass it and break him again.[/quote]

[quote=Protocol]Shen needed a nerf, bad. I saw a Shen build tanky, with bloodthirster, 1 phantom, and a nunu buff on him and he solo'd a whole team.[/quote]

[quote=example1013][quote=Protocol] Shen needed a nerf, bad. I saw a Shen build tanky, with bloodthirster, 1 phantom, and a nunu buff on him and he solo'd a whole team. [/quote] I soloed 4 people on Olaf between their inhibitor and inner turret once. I only got like 2 kills, though, they were cowards and ran away before the inner turret dropped and the rest of my team came up to help me (my team was taking the turret).[/quote]

[quote=Protocol]The issue was he wasn't really fed, they just stacked buffs so that he could have crazy attack speed/lifesteal.[/quote]

[quote=example1013][quote=Protocol] The issue was he wasn't really fed, they just stacked buffs so that he could have crazy attack speed/lifesteal. [/quote] I didn't say Shen wasn't OP lol.[/quote]