A Newbies guide for Newcomers

[quote=sirell][quote=MyBloodisBlack] First of all Sirell I do take advice and I have been listening to you and everyone else disagreement about my view on bot games however I haven't heard any advice on it but opinions from yourself and others on the matter which I have accepted and agreed upon.[/quote] You haven't 'heard' any advice because you're not listening at all. At the certainty of repeating myself the disagreements with your view on bot games IS advice, regardless of how opinionated you may feel it is. [quote=MyBloodisBlack] As for having no fucking clue what you agree or disagree with, to be fair you may be right in some sense but then again you have only just made it know you did agree with some stuff and only focused on telling me how wrong I was with 1 view.[/quote] Exactly. I only disagreed with your view on bot games and somehow you then assume that 'I do not agree agree with your views' when that's not the case. Of course I focused on telling you what was wrong with 1 view. I'm not going to waste time focusing on how right you are on xyz. [quote=MyBloodisBlack] And btw the reason I have not "taken advice" is because from my end at least it appears peoe have misread what I have said, I am getting the impression that people think I am telling them to do bots till level 30 and thats far from the case really...2 beginner and 2 intermediate games whilst practicing a new champion is more than enough to give a player more confidence when playing PVP.[/quote] No, it is you who has misread what people are trying to say. Past learning the mechanics of the game, bot games serves no purpose except to lower the difficulty threshold (which I have no objections to, if you want your first win of the day or just to kick back with an easier stomping game, that's fine). When practicing a new champion, the best way to simulate how well you can do with a champion is to play it against another player. You can learn quicker on the go and if you lose, that's fine, it's normals, not ranked, no one will give a fuck that the new [[wukong]] player went 0/20 in their last game after they start their next game. Moreover, the [[wukong]] player shouldn't give a fuck either, because he was new to the champion and it was a good opportunity to see how far off being able to use [[wukong]] properly he was. [quote=MyBloodisBlack] Now look I didnt create this guide to cause arguments but to try and help other new players and that's all. [/quote] OMFD, you created a guide, people are going to disagree on it, get over yourself. You're going to need thicker [s]blood[/s] skin if you're going to write guides or give advice.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]Where exactly is the advice? I say bot games can help you say it can not...thats not advice it called an opinion And I do love the fact I try to stop this going into a unnessesary argument and you actually tried to make an argument out of that too If you want me to change it to "dont bother with bot games...practice by doing PVP" then all you got to do is say so[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]This thread is ruined right?[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=MyBloodisBlack] This thread is ruined right? [/quote] Yeey optimism![/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=MyBloodisBlack] This thread is ruined right? [/quote] hopefully for the sake of all new players[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=Mooninites] [quote=MyBloodisBlack] This thread is ruined right? [/quote] hopefully for the sake of all new players [/quote] Would the people of Mobafire please delete this thread for me, Its obvious my intentions of helping people is just going to be spat at[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=MyBloodisBlack] Where exactly is the advice? I say bot games can help you say it can not...thats not advice it called an opinion [/quote] Maybe if you read as to WHY I have my opinion, then you'll see its value as advice. You can't see because you're not looking. Confucius-like shit, I know, but it's true. [quote=MyBloodisBlack] And I do love the fact I try to stop this going into a unnessesary argument and you actually tried to make an argument out of that too[/quote] Tried? I succeeded, because you can argue about anything and everything. You created a guide to be read. We read it. Then as your peers, gave you our criticisms of it. You rejected EVERYTHING that disagreed with you. Or just about. In all the cofuffle of you wanting to help others, you don't even recognise that you also need help. [quote=MyBloodisBlack] If you want me to change it to "dont bother with bot games...practice by doing PVP" then all you got to do is say so [/quote] Isn't that what we've been saying since the start? This is what I mean by you not listening. Jesus-fucking-Christ. [quote=MyBloodisBlack] Would the people of Mobafire please delete this thread for me, Its obvious my intentions of helping people is just going to be spat at[/quote] What the actual fuck. You're going to need more than 'good intentions' to help people, which is why several of us have critiqued your guide, so if you can't take critique at all, your guides are better off being deleted. The ironic thing is, you are spitting on our attempts to help you.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=MyBloodisBlack] [quote=Mooninites] [quote=MyBloodisBlack] This thread is ruined right? [/quote] hopefully for the sake of all new players [/quote] Would the people of Mobafire please delete this thread for me, Its obvious my intentions of helping people is just going to be spat at [/quote] I'm not questioning your attempts or intention to help new players, but what good is it if you're giving bad advice? There's a point beyond intention that if you're advice that is just bad, it's counterproductive is it not? Maybe I came off as harsh, I don't want to discourage you from helping new players or getting active in this community, but I do want you to understand the importance of helping people the right way[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]If this doesn't help new players then I don't know what will I made the effort turns out that by having my own opinion that I am in fact, an idiot according to everyone here, I don't listen to people and I have no clue about League of Legends because simply I believe different to "My Peers" well you all succeed in making me feel a twat so thank you very much. Fuck the newbies and Fuck my Peers if they can't respect my opinion why the hell should I give them the same respect back?[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=MyBloodisBlack] If this doesn't help new players then I don't know what will I made the effort turns out that by having my own opinion that I am in fact, an idiot according to everyone here, I don't listen to people and I have no clue about League of Legends because simply I believe different to "My Peers" well you all succeed in making me feel a twat so thank you very much. Fuck the newbies and Fuck my Peers if they can't respect my opinion why the hell should I give them the same respect back? [/quote] Because respect should be earned. The only thing you did so far were giving bad/mediocre tips and complaining about how no one cares about your tips :P You shouldnt expect to get respect from doing that :P[/quote]