Do you care about your win-loss record in...

[quote=Teh Grazzh0pper]I do, cause here in SEA, low normal elo means no jungler and retarded players, even at lvl 30. 2k+ normal elo gives you the chance to play with players with teams that are recognised here, which I like as I can learn a lot more from them.[/quote]

[quote=Absolute.0]I don't, Do lots of crazy stuff in normal. (where am I suppose to do them if not normal?) AP [[miss fortune]] ADR [[sona]] AP [[varus]] Jungle [[vayne]] AP [[rammus]] and so on and so forth. (I'm planning on ADR [[leblanc]]. oh Satella.... is your guide still up?) But what Teh Grazzh0pper said is true, low normal elo here in sea means no jungler resulting to 2-1-2 laning which is pretty crazy in and of itself.[/quote]

[quote=Teh Grazzh0pper]^ I challenge you to try jungle [[Ashe]].[/quote]

[quote=recnib]Although I would prefer to have higher wins than losses, I don't care about my w/l rate in normals. As somebody mentioned, normals are where you get to try out some unconventional builds and just in genral enjoy the game more.[/quote]

[quote=Absolute.0]Is that viable? I mean my jungle [[vayne]] idea came from a well placed [[condemn]]. But [[ashe]] have some good CC up her sleeves... how do you build her jungle? pls pls pls ^-^[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]As long as I at least at a 50% win ratio, I'm good.[/quote]

[quote=Satella][quote=Absolute.0] (I'm planning on ADR [[leblanc]]. oh Satella.... is your guide still up?) [/quote] At my current elo it doesn't work anymore, so I archived it; my ADC mechanics are fine, as are my AP Mid LB mechanics, but it simply no longer compensates for the fact that your range is 525, your waveclear is bad, and your AS is low. You try to CS and you get whacked by the enemy ADC with no way to answer; every single game is as infuriating as laning against [[Caitlyn]] or [[Varus]]. Would not recommend unless you are just looking for some entertainment when playing with buddies, or if you play at a level where people can't capitalize on your champion's weaknesses.[/quote]

[quote=Absolute.0][quote=Satella] At my current elo it doesn't work anymore, so I archived it; my ADC mechanics are fine, as are my AP Mid LB mechanics, but it simply no longer compensates for the fact that your range is 525, your waveclear is bad, and your AS is low. You try to CS and you get whacked by the enemy ADC with no way to answer; every single game is as infuriating as laning against Caitlyn or Varus. Would not recommend unless you are just looking for some entertainment when playing with buddies, or if you play at a level where people can't capitalize on your champion's weaknesses. [/quote] I was just looking for some fun stuff to do. o_O he he he[/quote]

[quote=Teh Grazzh0pper]Kite to death when you jungle, but you do need a good leash. Jungle clear till you get some items(lvls 1-4) will be damn slow, so don't expect to clear fast. However after you get items jungle clear should be really easy and comfortable. Ganks are good with the Q passive and her ultimate. R>W>Q>e I usually go for standard ADc build with a twist, Attack speed tier 2 boots, Elder Lizard, IE, BotRK, PD, Merc Scims(but I never got to build Merc Scims the time I played jungle [[Ashe]])[/quote]

[quote=Teh Grazzh0pper]But you do need really good AD carry mechanics such as orbwalking.[/quote]