Double Shurelya's - a new meta?

[quote=Embracing]It all depends on the game. For items right now there are only some that are specifically core on champions. It's less of "double shurelya meta" and more of "shurelya's compliments this champ as well as this champ"[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Mazuran] I think perhaps that League has moved on from having "the meta" to having a variety of metas that people use as templates.[/quote] +1[/quote]

[quote=Mazuran]Ta Searz. Used to be that the standard AP Mid, AD + Support Bot, Tanky-AD Top and Jungler was pretty much all you used to see. Now you have things like the Double AP and the return of (Well, it seems that way) the Roamer. Double Shurelya's imo fits in the same bracket as Double WotA, Double Aegis etc. I blame M5, tbh. Over the last season they've consistently mixed it up to the point that their opponents don't know what they'll be up against... Sometimes even during the same game... (Although... I have yet to see anyone play Morgana as a SoloTop. I mean, she's pretty damn good for it on paper as far as I can tell. Sustain, Shield, and CC. She ticks all the boxes... Same for Maokai really)[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]Well... thats after Dreamhack. Before Dreamhack, everything was like: Melee+Ranged Bot. Ranged Mid. Double Top / Tanky-Top + Jungle aww that good times :<[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=Mazuran] Used to be that the standard AP Mid, AD + Support Bot, Tanky-AD Top and Jungler was pretty much all you used to see. Now you have things like the Double AP and the return of (Well, it seems that way) the Roamer. [/quote] I'd assume this is because people realized that those things (still) work. Especially if you can predict, fairly reliably, that your opponents are going to have an AP mid, AD and support bottom, and tanky-AD both top and in the jungle. The "current meta" is probably what makes it possible to break the "current meta". [quote=Mazuran] Double Shurelya's imo fits in the same bracket as Double WotA, Double Aegis etc. [/quote] I'd actually say that double Shurelya's fits into a different place on the team than double of an actual aura item, because the "aura" bit of Shurelya's is an active rather than a passive. So instead of having overlapping "auras", what you end up with is more uptime on the one "aura". This makes it significantly more usable than relatively niche things like Double WotA, since everyone on the team benefits equally from both the first and second Shurelya's. To draw this out to its logical conclusion, if every member of a team built Shyrelya's, they would still all benefit from every single one of them (as long as team members don't overlap their activations); however, if every member of a team built Aegis, they would all only benefit from two.[/quote]

[quote=Mazuran][quote=lifebaka] [quote=Mazuran] Double Shurelya's imo fits in the same bracket as Double WotA, Double Aegis etc. [/quote] I'd actually say that double Shurelya's fits into a different place on the team than double of an actual aura item, because the "aura" bit of Shurelya's is an active rather than a passive. So instead of having overlapping "auras", what you end up with is more uptime on the one "aura". This makes it significantly more usable than relatively niche things like Double WotA, since everyone on the team benefits equally from both the first and second Shurelya's. To draw this out to its logical conclusion, if every member of a team built Shyrelya's, they would still all benefit from every single one of them (as long as team members don't overlap their activations); however, if every member of a team built Aegis, they would all only benefit from two. [/quote] Oooooooooh right. I see what you mean. I have to admit, my experience of using Shurelya's is limited to only having the one and using it on Udyr to gank, so... y'know. But having two of them lets you dive in and then GTFO. Me likey :) So basically double Shurelya's let you run like a baws :3 [quote] Before Dreamhack, everything was like: Melee+Ranged Bot. Ranged Mid. Double Top / Tanky-Top + Jungle [/quote] Before my time, I'm afraid. Should try it sometime to see how it works lol[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]I got the feeling is drifting into the way the Dota(2) meta is atm. The game M5 pulled with ali is exactly the way you play in Dota 2 with double support thet are in the woodes. But well in Dota there is more then 1 team setup up it also can be 2 top or 2 mid and the other lanes are solo. But the M5 style was played by Na'Vi a while ago in a final or soemthing.[/quote]