JungleDyr

[quote=utopus]Champions with snare: [[lux]], [[morgana]], [[swain]] E.G. all do really well to counter mundo. Udyr's [[bear stance]] usually gives just enough movement speed to dodge snares in the thick of the moment.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, [[sadism]] gives movement speed aswell, actually more.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]In the right circumstances I feel [[udyr]] can carry harder because he deals more damage overall than [[Dr. Mundo]]. Just my opinion though.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=NicknameMy] Well, [[sadism]] gives movement speed aswell, actually more. [/quote] Comparing a champion's ultimate to Udyr's E is ridiculous and honestly in terms of movement [[Bear Stance]] beats [[Sadism]] any time of the week. Honestly, Udyr clears almost as fast as Mundo and comes out of the jungle with more health. They preform a similar roll, just have different kits.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]Well.... Since the game is all about stacking Health atm I might say [[mundo]] is slightly better? But I still think [[udyr]] gets the job done extremely well.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Honestly they fill the same role, but I'd take Udyr over Mundo just because Mundo has a meh early bad mid and only above average lategame. Mundo gets ignited and suddenly hes just a punching bag that dies really fast to the ADC or AP.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You really don't remember S2 where Mundo was picked competetively in every single game? Especially CLG used him very much. And what did he do? He carried the team early with great ganks, he was midgame a high damage dealer with already good tankyness and lategame the unkillable tank even if ignited. S3 didn't change that much to nullify this power. There is a reason, why [[dr. mundo]] is at 3. place T1 and [[udyr]] at last place T3 in stonewall's tier list. And [[udyr]] doesn't deal more damage than [[dr. mundo]]. [[mundo]] has [[burning agony]], which deals 95 damage per second and [[infected cleaver]] which deals a high percentage of the current health with no cooldown. And with [[masochism]], the best AD steroid. At 50% from HP, it is 150 AD. And for all he just has to build HP, [[udyr]] otherwise has to get attack speed or attack damage to reach anything near that damage.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]all i remember was hotshot being always late for a gank and being steamrolled midgame during S2 finals. he is good, fast, but definatly not stable.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]hotshot destroyed CLG when he picked up jungling anyway...[/quote]

[quote=Vort][quote=NicknameMy] There is a reason, why [[dr. mundo]] is at 3. place T1 and [[udyr]] at last place T3 in stonewall's tier list. [/quote] There's also a reason why no one pays attention to Stonewall's tier list.[/quote]