Jungler taking kills? Rage!

[quote=I post stuff]There's something that I see more of recently and it really bugs me - People rage at their junglers for taking kills. Take kill once, expect a "..." instead of "gj". Take it twice - "omg". Start snowballing - the whole team starts flaming you. I understand that it sometimes makes sense to give the kill to the laner but it's more important to ensure that the enemy actually dies. Also, some junglers can snowball out of control to carry their team, for example [[Hecarim]], [[Mundo]], [[Lee sin]], [[jarvan iv]] or [[poppy]]. Bot lane seems to react like this most frequently; god forbid you take a double kill there, adc will immidiately say something along the lines of "omg noob jungle ks everything gtfo my lane". I personally don't care; when I'm ganking bot I try to murder one dude as fast as possible so I have more time to kill the other one. IMHO it's wrong to take the kill only if your ally is one auto/few ignite ticks away from a kill after going all in on the enemy while you simply supplied the CC. If you did lots of work, a towerdive or are simply afraid that the enemy might escape, get the kill (especially if you can snowball and carry). Am I thinking right?[/quote]

[quote=drakon136]I'd say you're thinking right, although my 'policy' on taking kills during ganks is different. If I'm ganking mid or bot, and I know for sure that the carry can get the kill, I will let them have it. If I don't know for sure, I'll take it. Also, I don't know about you, but if I'm playing jungle [[Poppy]] and they whine at me for 'stealing' a kill because they apparently need it more, I'm not ganking for them again. Why help stupid people when they don't want to not be stupid?[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]In general junglers shouldn't take the kills because it barely helps the laner. Apart from the assist gold, you pretty much only deny the enemy laner some xp and gold. Now, not saying it's a bad situation but it doesn't really help the laner. Giving them a kill puts them about 400-500 gold ahead which is a lot! Most junglers are known to be very item independent: [[Jarvan IV]], [[Lee Sin]] and [[Fiddlesticks]] might be able to snowball well; they also don't really need a ton of items to do their job.[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]if they say gtfo my lane then listen to them. just make sure that you don't come back.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]if they bitch at you, ignore them and win the game. xD ppl too moronic in low elo haha greez sam[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Rule of thumb is the enemy has to die. mid/top: Can the laner get the kill? Let him. He can't? Do it yourself. He complained? Do it again repeatedly and win the game. bot: Can the ADC get the kill? Let him. He couldn't and support got the kill? Try again. He can't? Do it yourself. He complained? Do it again repeatedly and win the game. I prefer to have people being little whiny bitches rather than letting enemy stomp them. It is oh so satisfying to mute someone and communicate through pings and get things done anyway. I have been baited into 1v3s due to this, for sure, but I only let it happen once per game. I also love it when this happens and enemy jungler camps bot. Buff stealing and solo lanes snowballing for the win.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]just be sure to make kills happen. id rather steal a 95% kill than have them escape 5% of the time xD[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]A kill is 300g. A kill + assist is 450g. I try to donate kills to my team, but if I have to steal a kill for an assist I will do it because it helps the team overall. Also, a stronger jungler is never a bad thing, because they'll just come back to your lane and give you more kills.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]If you can avoid taking kills, then i think you should do so. But i think it's alright taking a kill if you think there's more than a 5% chance of a champion [[flash]]ing and [[barrier]]-ing away :P[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Honestly i almost always take the first kill myself. Both because i want the gold for my boots to be secured, but also just because i'm level 3 and the laners are both level 2 so i'll have a fuckload of damage so not taking it is hard without letting em escape.[/quote]