Olaf or Udyr?

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]IDK I've had success with both. Olaf's true damage is scary, and his ganks are alright if the conditions are right. Udyr just has more lucrative survival with Turtle stance. And his bear stance ganks are scary as shit. The issue is Olaf is a bit UP at the moment, granted you get into a 45 minute game and you're pretty much un-killable....Triple kill under an enemy turret from half HP....I mean that's pretty good IMO. For this meta, although he could be tanky DPS (Triforce is awesome on him or at least that's how I build him) he's just got no hard CC which makes him easily kiteable, his passive is alright if he can ACTUALLY catch an enemy.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I'm gonna disagree with everyone and say that I think Olaf is one of the best champions is the game. Level your Q first, your E second, and shoot for a 50 minute + game every game. Once you're fully geared then you're officially a terror. One of the scariest things in game.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]He's not the worst. at the least XD.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]What Jeffy said by the way. I follow this build almost every game: wriggles/merc/triforce/chainmail/negatron/atma's/giant's belt/warmogg's/FoN/finish item (GA, Randuin's, Another Force, Infinity Edge, Banshee's veil, whatever you need.) Trinity is core and I build it every game.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Olaf is also a super scary ganker. I prefer Udyr, but Olaf has tons more damage then Udyr and late game is a billion times better. There was a game in IEM where Olaf got the only kill on the team from a gank on Annie. He's just scary as fuck under the right conditions. Think of him like a jungling Morde and you have approximately the same picture imo.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=DuffTime] What Jeffy said by the way. I follow this build almost every game: wriggles/merc/triforce/chainmail/negatron/atma's/giant's belt/warmogg's/FoN/finish item (GA, Randuin's, Another Force, Infinity Edge, Banshee's veil, whatever you need.) Trinity is core and I build it every game. [/quote] triforce is scary on him. But Undertow Olaf is sooo OP....XD[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Well it's great cause you undertow which procs your triforce. You've got slows on your attacks and the procs for damage synergize with Olaf burst. HP, attack damage, AS, those synergize with W, and it's just all around your best item. Move speed is SO important for Olaf. If they can't out run you, they die >:)[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]yar :) One of the few champs where Ghost is a good summoner spell on him. Better than flash IMO. (For him I mean)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I run smite flash, lolz.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Yeah, Ghost > Flash :( imo Triforce would only be good if you were going crit. Which I am occasionally sorely tempted to do, since I can get around 350 AD and crit for around 700 without IE...[/quote]