Olaf or Udyr?

[quote=TheJohn]Both jungle well, but I prefer Udyr Udyr sure ganks a lot better idk about laning, never tryed Udyr wins in overall study Olaf needs a rework imo. He has some weak points that destroys the champion.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I run trinity Atmog's force of nature pretty much every single game as Olaf xD[/quote]

[quote=React]Another question I should add in, which is the easier champion to learn and master? and which becomes the best when truly mastered?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Udyr is a billion times easier to learn and also easier to master. Olaf has a serious weak point mid game and you'll need team mates who know how to turtle while you get your gear. There's just no way around this. It's part of why people think he's not that great. But with Olaf, when you finish your gear, you're an absolute monster o_O[/quote]

[quote=React][quote=DuffTime] Udyr is a billion times easier to learn and also easier to master. Olaf has a serious weak point mid game and you'll need team mates who know how to turtle while you get your gear. There's just no way around this. It's part of why people think he's not that great. But with Olaf, when you finish your gear, you're an absolute monster o_O [/quote] The same could be said for anyone, whoever finishs their gear is likely to wreck the battlefield.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=React] [quote=DuffTime] Udyr is a billion times easier to learn and also easier to master. Olaf has a serious weak point mid game and you'll need team mates who know how to turtle while you get your gear. There's just no way around this. It's part of why people think he's not that great. But with Olaf, when you finish your gear, you're an absolute monster o_O [/quote] The same could be said for anyone, whoever finishs their gear is likely to wreck the battlefield. [/quote] Yea. Only, in Olaf's case, it's "gear up or be useless the whole game." Unless you are a pro with him, you will be terribly weak early game.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]No that's not correct. Early game he is very strong. It's mid-mid late game where he's useless and it doesn't really matter how pro you are with him. He's very under whelming during this phase of the game. However, what the other guy said is also not true. Any champ with end game gear might be good but Olaf with end game gear is TERRIFYING. It's GROSS. HORRIFIC. Insanely disgusting. I could go on? :P[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I'm just saying. I have a friend who mains Olaf. Wrecks face easy once he gets his gear and whines when he can't get kills so he can get his gear. I will agree however that, once Olaf gets his gear, you almost have to have a full 5 man gank, when his ult is down, to get even close to killing him.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Olaf is 100000000x times harder to master then Udyr. Olaf is 20000000x better to play for damage when you master him.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Well that's why you just don't fight mid game. I've played a whole mess of Olaf as well. Mid game, instead of fighting, you just split push and farm the lane until they come after you, and you fall back. And then suddenly you've got end game gear. GG.[/quote]