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[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=TheJohn] [quote=Temzilla] [quote=TheJohn] I think that Jax got a nice buff here, and both Trynda and GP a nerf early game [/quote] OH SHIT. TRYNDAMERE'S CRIT CHANCE WENT FROM 39% TO 35% OH SHIT, HIS EARLY GAME IS FUCKING RUINED! And GP didn't get any more of a nerf than anyone else, Parley can crit, sure, so can [[Siphoning Strike]] [/quote] 4% does make difference [/quote] Sure does.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Or it could make no difference at all. As is the "risk" with crit. BUT crit is also more plentiful than dodge was (especially after the dodge removal on PD T_T) which makes it a worthwhile investment.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]It sure as hell made a difference if you actually got one. 4% chance of an instant lane win is definitely worth taking.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Or it could make no difference at all. As is the "risk" with crit. BUT crit is also more plentiful than dodge was (especially after the dodge removal on PD T_T) which makes it a worthwhile investment. [/quote] Taking something away from what it once was makes it a difference.[/quote]

[quote=Mesima][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Imma build him AD and troll...This guy is pretty much an instabuy for me because his theme is awesome not to mention he's "going to" do retard amounts of damage...I play Cass/Ahri so skill shots and I know eachother intimately. [/quote] I play Ahri/Ezreal so I'm on the same page as you when it comes to skill shots. I might wait for his free week or I may just buy him right away lol.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]@Joobieo: In a philosophical discussion yes. But statistically 4% chance to crit is 4% chance to crit. However that is why it is called Crit CHANCE, not Crit assured. What I was saying was that crit had a chance to make a difference, but also had no chance at all in the same breath. Much like Dodge was, you simply can stack CrC because it is additive, not multiplicative like dodge. (Or I thought dodge was multiplicative) however until you achieved a reliable number, like 50% CrC your early game could have had no crits at all, or you could have had many crits. @Mesima: Plus his skill set sounds like it will need planning, something I very much enjoy when I mid. Overall feels like he'll be a Nid/Viktor/Gragas/Tristana/Lux hybrid or something....Which sounds like fun ^_^[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote]Originally Posted by Classick 2012-01-27 Viktor will be getting some good quality of life buffs next patch, a couple that you mentioned in this post. We don't think Viktor needs any more damage, just some usability and reliability tweaks.[/quote] [quote]Originally Posted by Statikk 2012-01-27 Try Viktor out next patch with the improvements we made. We agree that Viktor currently has some usability issues, but in terms of raw numbers Viktor's damage is actually quite high. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how much the upcoming changes help Viktor's overall playability.[/quote] Maybe finally [[Viktor]] will be playable?[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]It's not like he wasn't playable before. But I'm assuming they're going to fix his laser a bit (perhaps increase its AoE so it's a bit easier to land) maybe fix his stupid passive by making it well...IDK not a mediocre item that takes the place of an actual item....[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Listen guys. The reason the 4% crit was too strong, was because you basically got it for free, with no penalty just for going 21-X-X. Not because the 4% specifically was going to win you a lane. They are fine with you using 4% worth of crit runes, because then you can't use those rune slots for anything else. The 4% crit had no real alternatives for AD champions.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]And the AD per level will offer other alternatives? I'm assuming it might be as much as .5/1/1.5/2 AD per level maybe a little more? They're just limiting the RNG of the game and forcing people to invest in CrC if they REALLY want it. Once again I consider this to be an indirect buff to Tryn/Ashe. By taking away other people's free chances to crit it gives them a slight advantage. Yes people can still rune CrC, but now they sacrifice other stats. Tryn and Ashe can just go ArP reds/Armor Yellows/AS Blues or MR Blues and w/e quints (I run 2 AS+ 1 ArP for quints)[/quote]