Jungle Fiddle Rune help?

[quote=screwblum]I read Santvictous's Jungle Fiddle build and I liked it alot. So I tried his jungling route and died at the blue golem. I am only lvl 21 and with only 229 IP. So... For a jungling Fiddle, any ideas on what runes with my requirements?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Fiddles is very rune dependent. If you don't have the runes, try getting someone to give you a really strong leash. Like a tricky leash. Look up stonewall's leashing tutorial to fins it.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]If you need a certain set of runes, go for armor seals first. They'll give you the most survivability in the jungle and only cost 210 IP each so you can get several very easily.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]I have personally been using [[greater mark of insight]], [[greater seal of clarity]], [[greater glyph of focus]], and [[greater quintessence of potency]]. With these I am able to kill Golem without a leash if absolutely necessary, but always try to get a leash regardless. It gives you more security.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Jebus McAzn] If you need a certain set of runes, go for armor seals first. They'll give you the most survivability in the jungle and only cost 210 IP each so you can get several very easily. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=theBMB][quote=Svingas] I have personally been using [[greater mark of insight]], [[greater seal of clarity]], [[greater glyph of focus]], and [[greater quintessence of potency]]. With these I am able to kill Golem without a leash if absolutely necessary, but always try to get a leash regardless. It gives you more security. [/quote] that's exactly what I use too[/quote]

[quote=Hershyy][quote=Svingas] I have personally been using [[greater mark of insight]], [[greater seal of clarity]], [[greater glyph of focus]], and [[greater quintessence of potency]]. With these I am able to kill Golem without a leash if absolutely necessary, but always try to get a leash regardless. It gives you more security. [/quote] I used to use these, then I just started using [[Greater Mark of Insight]] and flat Ap for quints seals and glyphs. The only time I died at blue with fiddle was when I smited the small lizard on accident...[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]One of the reasons why I use this rune set-up is because I also play other casters who I lane with and the Clarity Seals are very helpful in that situation. Thus, rather than having a separate full AP page, and a mage page, I just use a mage page for all my AP needs.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]actually correction, I don't use [[greater seal of clarity]] I use flat armor, it's essential for any jungler[/quote]

[quote=Maphis]I really like this guide on Solomid : http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=1824 It gives you a fiddle jungle route where you don't need to start with blue and some other great info as well. In regards to fiddle jungle before lvl 30 just don't do it, it's slow and very hard to pull of also you might learn some bad habits from it. You're much better of doing it with a working rune + mastery setup, that way you learn how to play him much quicker and a lot faster.[/quote]