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Hello.

I have more or less made top my number one role, as I'm fairly bad at most others apart from support, and I want to learn more about top to make me a better player at what I do best.

I usually go draft queue, and have a rather jaded opinion of blind matches and tend not to do them unless trying a new champion I've recently picked up. I often try to trade with someone if I'm first pick to counter the enemies' team top if at all possible, and my current favorite top champion is the delightful Teemo.

A couple of thing I wanted to discuss / learn is how to counter Irelia, Yorick and how to in general play against these champions, as well as learn a few top champions such as Singed, Vladimir and Malphite, and improve my Poppy.

My favorite tops at the moment are Cho'Gath and Teemo, as well as Lee Sin and Jayce. I used to frequently played Olaf top, and have dabbled in Jax and Darius as well.

I'd add you ingame or talk on this thread, doesn't really matter to me, but if you do main top like myself, I'd love to talk to you about what I've mentioned.
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You should add your IGN. Have you some ecperience in ranked?


Irelia is countered by olaf and you used to play him so you sjould be able to win against one. The key is to not let her farm.

Against Yorick I use Nunu top, I know it seems strange but consuming on ghouls heals you up a ton and shut down is harass. Also, against yorick the bush is your friend as his ghouls wont follow you there.


Poppy is not a viable top atm you will always lose your lane if you pick her infortunately. Malphite, Singed and Vlad are powerful top laners with high sustain with them you can win ALMOST all trades (More tricky with singed, Malph wins against each AD champ and vlad is just a monster late game)


I dont play jayce so I dont know if hes a strong solo top but if I were you I wouldnt stop playing jax as he is a very good pick and has a strong lategame as well.

You can add me if you like I have no problem with it
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Irelia is countered by olaf and you used to play him so you sjould be able to win against one. The key is to not let her farm.

Irelia counters olaf, just start with E and FB him on lvl 2.
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Irelia is countered by olaf and you used to play him so you sjould be able to win against one. The key is to not let her farm.

Irelia counters olaf, just start with E and FB him on lvl 2.



Obviously you dont have a great experience with olaf and Irelia
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Obviously i raped olafs on 1800 ELO as irelia. I also got 1500+ on MULTIPLE accounts. From what ive seen you are stuck at 1200 with 150 rankeds.
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Ouch Touché xD but thats only because lulu is op

Edit: Though your Irelia games are numbered at 31 in ranked 5.1 /5.6 k/d ratio. How many of these games were you facing Olaf? were they good?

Edit: And for the elo thingy lets compare again when I have almost 2000 ranked game as well ok? just to be fair :)
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Ask DuffTime or Evildice.
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Phil15 wrote:

Ouch Touché xD but thats only because lulu is op


Lolking says Lulu is on top5 of WORST WIN RATIO champions in game on rankeds 1500-1900 ELO, having like 44% win ratio overall. It's a proof she does need some serious buffing. But it doesn't stop me from playing her - I even play AP shaco or AD carry katarina, I wouldn't be the person I am without playing Lulu :P
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Edit: Though your Irelia games are numbered at 31 in ranked 5.1 /5.6 k/d ratio. How many of these games were you facing Olaf? were they good?

Well, my kda may be not best because i am not a player who focuses much on winning, more on having fun. I am able to stay on my rating even when playing fancy stuff like AD carry irelia or jungle irelia (tho its always hard to start game with AD carries like her - so many people dodge thinking im trolling :<). Anyway for top i guess i pick it mostly for Olaf / Vladimir to counter them.
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Edit: And for the elo thingy lets compare again when I have almost 2000 ranked game as well ok? just to be fair :)


Bullsheet bro. This is it - I played more games, I got more experience and along with more games and more experience comes bigger skill. Maybe you have more talent and after 2000 rankeds u will be better player than me? I don't deny it. But right now you are stuck at 1.2k and u say olaf is counter to irelia, while both me and some top players of League of Legends prove its the other way.
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Well pro players have disagreement as well on who counters what so its just not a surprise that there is different opinions between the two of us.

I also focus on having fun so I get what you say.

I dont want to argue with you so im just saying im sorry if you took my comment badly thats really not what I intended and thanks for you constructive criticism thats appreciated
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I also didn't mean to sound egoist or something, I simply disagreed because on my elo I didn't have big trouble with olafs.
It's like:
He maxes Q and harasses u with it nonstop but u can dodge / outheal it / u can stay behind minions so even if he hits you he pushes lane hard. If he maxes thunders, he has to come close, so you simply wait till he use it and u will have less hp, u stun him, enable W and u outdamage him.

Of course don't fight if he has larger group of minions, because their damage may be even higher than his own.
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