Poppy: Need Advice on Gaining Gold

[quote=TheJohn]And she can jungle well? Like the time it takes, difficulty, need of runes.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Nope she's not a great jungler either. That's why she's not used, because she lanes poorly in all lanes, and she jungles slowly and it's not an easy jungle either. She's a good champion with farm, but she's awful at acquiring said farm. Which is why she's just sort of a bad champion.[/quote]

[quote=Ferrick]Okay. Thanks for the all the tips. I will put them to use. @ DuffTime - that is the biggest and most glaring drawback. You would think Riot would have tweaked this Champion somehow.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]They don't tweak her because of how absolutely BROKEN her end game damage output is, and because she shouldn't be able to reach that state of destruction so easily. Personally, when you're against good players, they won't allow the game to go 50-60 minutes long, where you'll have full end game gear and be a true force to be reckoned with, so she's still not very great in higher levels of play either. But I think a late game nerf and an early game buff would put Poppy into a more playable spot. Like what they did with Tryndamere.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=DuffTime] They don't tweak her because of how absolutely BROKEN her end game damage output is, and because she shouldn't be able to reach that state of destruction so easily. Personally, when you're against good players, they won't allow the game to go 50-60 minutes long, where you'll have full end game gear and be a true force to be reckoned with, so she's still not very great in higher levels of play either. But I think a late game nerf and an early game buff would put Poppy into a more playable spot. Like what they did with Tryndamere. [/quote] That's true. Her damage when Trinity Force is huge and one or another item and you are almost hit killing people. Nice idea, I'll mail RIOT right now.[/quote]

[quote=Ferrick]Again, you guys are spot on. I attempted to play Poppy in several bot games yesterday to learn her but her early gaming -- for me -- was so difficult even when I attempted to jungle for gold which I still didn't seem able to get enough of fast enough. I was always behind in level and equipment! :( Melee/tanks are certainly not my strong suit as it is so I have no problem saying it could be all me. Obviously DuffTime you know how to play her in actual competition which I would love to see how you do it when gold for her is such a premium early to mid and in light of the fact that she is also not really good at jungling. To borrow an old adage: "You are between a rock and a hard place." You are also correct that they need to do a serious tweak or two in the beginning and a nerfing at the end to give this character some need balance for playability. She can't farm and is not a good jungler then it takes a very experienced player, IMO, to even make her doable. A shame they haven't yet because I love her abilities and it could be the first fighter I think I could learn to play effectively.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]She has one of the most ridiculous toolkit in the game, which essentially guarantees at least one free kill end game. 100%. Sometimes two. It does take a bit of experience and certainly correct runes and masteries to be able to jungle her. While yes, you're probable lack of experience is likely holding you back a bit, this champion's not doing you any favors. There are better choices who you'll feel a lot stronger with. For a relative beginner you might consider a different champion. If you like ranged champions, Gangplank might be an easy transition into melee since his Q does apply on hit effects like crits. His ult is easy to use and serves as a good gap closer. You might find more success with Gangplank. He can both jungle and lane fairly well to boot, and if somewhat strong at most phases of the game to boot.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]If you like Poppy, Akali is rather similar except for being easier to play and more viable. In that you jump on people and make them say 'WTF WHERE DID MY HEALTHBAR GO?'.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]^ This is true for AP Poppy. I play my Poppy AD, so that thought never occured to me :P[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=DuffTime] ^ This is true for AP Poppy. I play my Poppy AD, so that thought never occured to me :P [/quote] Well, I meant in terms of their burst assassin playstyle. AD Poppy still does that if I'm not mistaken, just with different items. I only played her once or twice though, and I think those were co-op games.[/quote]