vamp and life steal

[quote=envy11]hey some items are giving life steal and some of them something with vampiric. wheres the different and if it states +17 life steal, does it mean 17% of your damage will return into healthpoints, or 17 healthpoints will income each hit? thanks envy[/quote]

[quote=Kael312]lifesteal is a precent of your damage returning as health, and spell vamp, ive always been kinda fuzzy, but im pretty sure its like lifesteal, but for spells, giving casters some sort of lifesteal type ability, but only person who ever gets decent spell vamp is akali that ive ever seen, im sure a vet will clear up spell vamp soon enough[/quote]

[quote=envy11]so if im going to buy hextech revolver +10 spell vamp im getting 10 hp for a 100 damage spell? and the lifesteal is for normal attacks. so these items are only usefull for fast attacking units and not for casters arent they?[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix]Kael312 is right. Spell vamp is basically life steal for spells. And yes if you have 10% spell vamp you get 10hp for every 100 magic damage you deal. Note: Spell vamp only works on actual spells and not on things that do magic damage as a result of a proc effect (ex. Madred's Bloodrazor deals magic damage for every physical hit, but you will not gain life from spell vamp for the magic damage being dealt.) The only characters I've ever seen regularly go for spell vamp is Akali and maybe Vlad, mostly because they already have their own natural spell vamp so adding more on is pretty beneficial. Source: [url=http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Vamp]http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Vamp[/url][/quote]

[quote=Oberron]I'll clear it up without you having to link outside forums. Lifesteal = Physical dmg (skills and auto-attacks) Spell Vamp = Magic Dmg (Skills only) Both return a % of dmg done as hp.[/quote]

[quote=Scrax][quote=Oberron] Lifesteal = Physical dmg (physical damage skills and auto-attacks) [/quote] Fixed it for you ;)[/quote]

[quote=Oberron]I figured that when I wrote physical damage before that, they would figure out that only abilities doing phys dmg would count. I guess you're right though, I should put it in layman terms...[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]hey visfarix, it could also be pretty nice on fiddles.[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix]yea it would be pretty good on drain. not so good with fiddles ult or crow attack because spell vamp scales TERRIBLY with multi-hit spells.[/quote]

[quote=Oberron]Oddly though, it does very well with Fiddlesticks Drain and Vlad's Transfusion... What was the point of that?![/quote]