Climate change n' stuff

[quote=Searz][quote=Mooninites] im still waiting for the global warming community and al gore to prove that global warming is man-made normally how science works is you provide data that proves something, I anticipate i'll be waiting well into the future[/quote] [b]Absolute[/b] proof [i]might[/i] be impossible right now, but hey, we can't disprove God, that must mean that he exists! [quote=Mooninites] During the 70's and 90's we had cooling periods and people were actually afraid of 'global cooling'. These were periods of high economic production and need I say that there were green house emissions? I don't want you to shit your pants at this next statement: but cars were not 'green' back then. Shocking I know, in fact the Co2 emissions haven't increased that dramatically and there is no 'steep increase' as you say, in fact, it's quite a moderate increase.[/quote] In light of the "procedure" for trapping heat in the atmosphere that Pheyniex posted, I would like to point out that an increase in greenhouse gases doesn't directly increase heat; it increases heat over a long period of time. Thus a phenomena that reduces the earth's heat can momentarily bring it down, but the bigger picture remains the same. One cannot go around cherry-picking data and expect their arguments to hold weight. [quote]I'm really curious as to what you're talking about, because 40 years ago people were afraid of global cooling, not global warming. So you're just factually wrong[/quote] Blanket statements, HO! Also, that exact point is brought up and disproved in the long video. [quote=GrandmasterD] +rep. All very true, and I specifically avoid the word 'agreed' here because Moon listed all facts instead of opinions or wikipedia pages. Seriously, read a book pheyniex! The point is that a lot of people want to believe that Global warming or cooling is man-made because then we can fix it. Fear does a lot when it comes to these kind of subjects.[/quote] I can't help but think that you're trolling, because your choice of words and attitude is very weird. If you're not: please contribute with some actual content and not just empty fluff. [quote=Meiyjhe] I can assure you Mooninities, there have been measurements made of how much CO2 we emit as humans each year, and how much CO2 rises in total each year. The difference between the CO2 rising and the amount humanity emitted was fairly minimal, I can assure you.[/quote] What was that you could again? ;)[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Searz] [quote=Mooninites] im still waiting for the global warming community and al gore to prove that global warming is man-made normally how science works is you provide data that proves something, I anticipate i'll be waiting well into the future[/quote] [b]Absolute[/b] proof [i]might[/i] be impossible right now, but hey, we can't disprove God, that must mean that he exists! [/quote] Classic logical fallacy Searz. He says that we cannot state something is true because it isn't proven to be true. You compare this with something must be true because we cannot prove otherwise. My earlier comment was mostly a troll regarding Pheyniex. I agree and disagree with some of the statements made by either of them.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=SkidmarkD] God doesn't need proof. Faith is all you need.[/quote] Hell yeah! Who needs logic when you have god? [quote=GrandmasterD] Classic logical fallacy Searz. He says that we cannot state something is true because it isn't proven to be true.[/quote] I know. My point is that there is very little in this world that we know with [b]absolute[/b] certainty, but we often know enough to make deductions and base our decisions off that. [quote]My earlier comment was mostly a troll regarding Pheyniex. I agree and disagree with some of the statements made by either of them.[/quote] Thought so.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=SkidmarkD] [quote=Searz] Hell yeah! Who needs logic when you have god?[/quote] No one [i]has[/i] God. He is in everyone and all around us. You just need to open you heart to accept him. [/quote] I don't think there is a word in the English language to describe that, but I'll go ahead and try [i]bullshit[/i].[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=SkidmarkD] No one [i]has[/i] God. He is in everyone and all around us. You just need to open you heart to accept him.[/quote] Sorry, I can't tell if you're serious or not. [quote]That reeks of idealism.[/quote] Idealism or not, it's not wrong, isn't it? [quote]And going from what is considered these days as scientific research, people still can'tmake correct deductions. They usually already have an opinion and search to find data that proves it, ignoring data that disproves what they think is right. Global warming is not an exception. :D[/quote] And what says that this little opinion of yours doesn't follow the same principle? ;) [quote](but it's fine, there's still room for you in my world)[/quote] Thank you..? [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=SkidmarkD] No one [i]has[/i] God. He is in everyone and all around us. You just need to open you heart to accept him.[/quote] I don't think there is a word in the English language to describe that, but I'll go ahead and try [i]bullshit[/i].[/quote] Have some rep, good sir.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Oh god, more religion vs atheism? Haven't people learned their lesson? [b] You can't prove either side of the argument [/b] Please stop.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Embracing] Oh god, more religion vs atheism? Haven't people learned their lesson? [b] You can't prove either side of the argument [/b] Please stop. [/quote] “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” - Stuart Chase Good quote to end it with then?[/quote]

[quote=IShouldGetALife][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Embracing] Oh god, more religion vs atheism? Haven't people learned their lesson? [b] You can't prove either side of the argument [/b] Please stop. [/quote] “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” - Stuart Chase Good quote to end it with then? [/quote] Actually theism can be disproved and if you ever see any debates between atheists and theists (professional debates) the atheists always win.[/quote]

[quote=IShouldGetALife]Atheism ftw.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Please do tell me how theism can be disproved.[/quote]