im just gonna say that it shouldnt be the hospital, the government, or the church that decides if your fetus is alive or not, it should be the parents that decide if the fetus is alive or not
but regarding this i do think its a stupid policy, if you can give someone an organ to let them live just do it whats the point of letting someone die just because a policy says they dont get to? if someone was having a heart attack on a field and there was a sign that said "do not step on the grass" would you follow that policy or go to help them?
but regarding this i do think its a stupid policy, if you can give someone an organ to let them live just do it whats the point of letting someone die just because a policy says they dont get to? if someone was having a heart attack on a field and there was a sign that said "do not step on the grass" would you follow that policy or go to help them?

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Mooninites wrote:
Two entirely different things. Mammals give live birth, reptiles and birds give birth through eggs. you might have learned this in elementary school. In case you didn't pick it up, there term 'live' is in there, as in a living being.
So?
Just because the egg is outside of the body doesn't change the fact that it's an egg in both cases and they both contain living cells.
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Searz wrote:
So?
Just because the egg is outside of the body doesn't change the fact that it's an egg in both cases and they both contain living cells.
^ This.

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SkidmarkD wrote:
The fetus has the potential to become a human being.
and that somehow makes it special how? because it might be a human.
whats so good about humans? or are you just saying that because you infact, are human.
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caucheka wrote:
and that somehow makes it special how? because it might be a human.
whats so good about humans? or are you just saying that because you infact, are human.
I'm pretty sure he's implying what a 'pro-life' person thinks.
I'm pretty sure most 'pro-life' people consider humanity superior to other species. Similar to how the thoughts on the inferiority of 'negros' largely originated from the bible(or where supported through).
There's a lot of hypocrisy in religion.
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caucheka wrote:
secondly, the rule was in effect since before she was born, [comment edited by mod]. but no its all obamas fault as is everything else.
Mooninites did start this thread, therefore it is obviously obama's fault...
DillButt64 wrote:
it should be the parents that decide if the fetus is alive or not
why stop there. Should the parent decide if a child should live or not too?
SkidmarkD wrote:
The fetus has the potential to become a human being.
it is human life
caucheka wrote:
and that somehow makes it special how? because it might be a human.
whats so good about humans? or are you just saying that because you infact, are human.
Most people consider human life pretty special, occasionally the sick **** like you comes around and says its not anything special.
Searz wrote:
Similar to how the thoughts on the inferiority of 'negros' largely originated from the bible(or where supported through).
Care to provide evidence, because I have plenty from the bible that contradicts this wildly inaccurate statement. It would probably do you some good to actually read the bible
caucheka wrote:
my dad comes from a very religious family (my uncle on his side is/was a preacher) and this is complete truth.
i'm sure youre such a moral and enlightened individual
caucheka wrote:
secondly, the rule was in effect since before she was born, [comment edited by mod]. but no its all obamas fault as is everything else.
regulations the result of Obama's Health Care law, who's fault is it again? Oh I guess the only logical argument is that it's this young girls fault for being born 2 years later. Do you ever take time out of your day and just think, "wow I'm a total ****ing idiot".

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Mooninites wrote:
Most people consider human life pretty special, occasionally the sick **** like you comes around and says its not anything special.
What is so sick about this? This statement is very true.
The only reason we value human life so much is because we ourselves are human. But if you would look objectively at the situation that applies on the human race; Humanity is the same as any mammal, except the human brain is more evolved than other species of life. I mean seriously, if you look at a dog, a cat, a monkey, any animal, you can see certain behaviours we also would do. If you were a rabbit and you saw a giant human child walking to you, you would also flee. If you were to be a dog and you get punished for bad behaviour, you would also be more of a "good boy". Humanity is not that special, it is just a bit more evolved than the rest, that is all.
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why stop there. Should the parent decide if a child should live or not too?
Fetus =/= child


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Before Obamacare she probably would have gotten the lung she needed.
first off, you don't know if there are any repercussions about putting an adult organ in a childs body.
secondly, the rule was in effect since before she was born, [comment edited by mod]. but no its all obamas fault as is everything else.
a fetus is human cells, yes, but for the most part they are just that, cells. stem cells mostly, that havn't yet 'specialized' into something.