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Creator: IceCreamy May 28, 2013 3:28am
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You pay a price premium for convenience, that's how it is. Gaming laptops aren't all bad; some of them are well worth the money.
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Yeah but I want to play LoL at school. So I really need a way to use my laptop for gaming ^^ Gonna lower my settings now.

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IceCreamy wrote:

Tuning down the LoL settings might help, but then I'm afraid I'll be more busy changing stuff back and forth, instead of playing :P

Turn on VSync. That should help since the GPU will be resting in between frames instead of churning out 100FPS or something. Turn shadows to blob or off completely btw.
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I suppose I could try to use Game Booster, I have it installed anyways but I don't use it.

That **** is pretty useless unless you've got a RAM shortage (which you don't seem to have) or if you're really bad at managing your PC and tend to install all kinds of junk programs on it.
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Gaming laptops aren't all bad; some of them are well worth the money.

Are you kidding me? That seems awful.
Dual GPUs are known to be troublesome and using that in a laptop can't be sane for a number of reasons..
And while you may think that the i7 used in portable systems isn't that far off the i7 used in a desktop system, the difference is actually pretty large.
I think it's almost to the point where the desktop CPU has double the performance of the corresponding laptop CPU.

I could buy a 700$ PC that is faster than that laptop and get a 250$ Chromebook or whatever to use on the go.
That would cost me less AND give me better performance when playing games.
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I tried turning off the shadows but that makes everything look so... weird... as if everything is just flying :S

For now:

Character: Very Low
Effects: Medium
Environment: Low
Shadows: High

I've also tried lower Shadows but then you start seeing squares instead of properly shaped shadows.

Also Game Booster says there is a 42 % increase on performance.

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Searz wrote:

Are you kidding me? That seems awful.
Dual GPUs are known to be troublesome and using that in a laptop can't be sane for a number of reasons..
And while you may think that the i7 used in portable systems isn't that far off the i7 used in a desktop system, the difference is actually pretty large.

Dual GPUs actually don't suffer that much microstuttering anymore, especially with the Kepler generation of Nvidia chips.

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I think it's almost to the point where the desktop CPU has double the performance of the corresponding laptop CPU.

They are literally the same piece of silicon with the mobile CPU clocked down for thermal reasons. If you can keep the laptop adequately cooled, turbo boost kicks in and you're going to get compute performance similar to a non-overclocked desktop CPU.

The real discrepancy comes from the i5 CPUs, which are quad-core for desktops but dual-core for laptops.

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I could buy a 700$ PC that is faster than that laptop and get a 250$ Chromebook or whatever to use on the go.

Oh? Please do. I'd love for you to try and fit keyboard, mouse, 1920x1080 monitor and all the tower components into a $700 budget and beat dual 650Ms in framerate. Don't forget the SSD cache either.

EDIT> I just tried it and actually you can, so disregard what I said above. I went the route of Ivy Bridge Pentium + Radeon 7850 and managed to fit everything into a $700 budget. Still, if you want portability, a laptop is the way to go. Don't be this guy.
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Satella wrote:

Dual GPUs actually don't suffer that much microstuttering anymore, especially with the Kepler generation of Nvidia chips.

That's one problem. There are a few very prominent problems with dual GPUs that get even worse on laptops. Dual GPUs on a laptop is pretty ******ed, seriously.
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They are literally the same piece of silicon with the mobile CPU clocked down for thermal reasons. If you can keep the laptop adequately cooled, turbo boost kicks in and you're going to get compute performance similar to a non-overclocked desktop CPU.

You're right, it's probably just the GPUs that are CRIPPLED compared to the desktop variants. It's more like 40% on the CPU side alone.

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Still, if you want portability, a laptop is the way to go.

I disagree. Tablets are the way to go. At least for most people.
They're much lighter, smaller and often have double the battery life compared to a laptop.

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Searz wrote:


That's one of the MANY problems. Dual GPUs on a laptop is pretty ******ed, seriously.


Awful to program for Dual GPUs as well.
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Awful to program for Dual GPUs as well.

Scratch that. The problems aren't actually that numerous, they're just really big.

I could give more insight into why it's so damn stupid to use in a portable machine if needed.
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No ****ing way am I typing 120 WPM or doing any sort of compute-heavy work on a tablet. Laptops and tablets serve two different purposes.
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IceCreamy wrote:

I already had Game Booster installed, it says I have somewhere between 45 and 65 degrees Celcius :P


The regular for me is 70°C and I'm using a cooling base. Intel Core i5 Hewlett-Packard laptop.

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