You encourage methods like overclocking that are way worst than raid and SLI and you're calling me kiddo, ***** please. Idk what is your background but I actually informed myself before talking. I switched my SSD because of your recommendation because you were right, I'm not ashamed to say you're right. But it seems that saying your wrong for once makes you all hyper. I'm studying in computer science and I'm informing myself before actually saying stuff like that. Read the entire thing about overclocking a 3770 processor, because I'm sure you just read the last page.
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Arkharan wrote:
You encourage methods like overclocking that are way worst than raid and SLI and you're calling me kiddo, ***** please. Idk what is your background but I actually informed myself before talking. I switched my SSD because of your recommendation because you were right, I'm not ashamed to say you're right. But it seems that saying your wrong for once makes you all hyper. I'm studying in computer science and I'm informing myself before actually saying stuff like that. Read the entire thing about overclocking a 3770 processor, because I'm sure you just read the last page.
Edited; read it again, I noticed that I missed the important stuff (you linked me to the wrong page :/).
Overclocking is free performance. Often as much as 15-20% without even buying a new cooler. SLI has many known problems and is most certainly not free. Your argument does not make sense.
I don't care how you informed yourself, but you didn't know anything about CPU Turbo. And your knowledge on overclocking is rather lacking.
I called you a kiddo because you stated things like you knew them while the things you said in fact are far from how they are in the real world. Provide evidence that good/decent coolers go for 100-200$ if you wanna invalidate my argument.
I know for a fact that the i7 3770 is not one of the best cpu to overclock, stated in the article you prolly read by now. The utility in overclocking is pretty much upgrading your computer abilities. Do you know my profile as a person? I don't play big games on my computer, I play league, many other f2p and I might consider GW2 later on. All of those games are behing run at 100+ fps by my cpu, after that yeah I need a good graphic card and stuff, but again as a low profile gamer I won't need much so there, I might go for a cheap one or a better one. I stated the GTX 660 Ti, but I might end up with a 560 too. (I'm still looking for my graphic card, as you can see I didn't write any yet, the integrated one is gonna do a fine job while I make up my mind)
I might have said a lot of stuff that doesn't make any sense to overclocking in general, but for the 4770K like tomshardware said, go up to 4,5 GHZ and your computer starts thermal throttling (cpu clock going down because of the high temperature). So just for the .4-.5 you're going to need "ok termal solution, just a better cpufan/heatsink" and now if you wanna go for more .5-1.5 let's say you're going to need good to extremely good cooling (100$-200$) in cooling. I did state in previous pages that I actually cut the price of some parts for the "uneeded" stuff. Like I didn't need more than 1TB for my hdd so I went for 1, same with my processor I had 2 choice, either go sandy bridges processor wich have way better overclocking abilities with some cooling solution, or go for a ivy-bridge pretty good processor (unlocked or not it's pretty good already). If I startled you or anything there might be a "missunderstanding" on both party. I don't want to pay unecessary money (even if it's just 30$ on my processor or on cooling) I'm 21 years old and you don't have enough money every 3-4 years for a new computer, I'm actually pretty lucky.
I might have said a lot of stuff that doesn't make any sense to overclocking in general, but for the 4770K like tomshardware said, go up to 4,5 GHZ and your computer starts thermal throttling (cpu clock going down because of the high temperature). So just for the .4-.5 you're going to need "ok termal solution, just a better cpufan/heatsink" and now if you wanna go for more .5-1.5 let's say you're going to need good to extremely good cooling (100$-200$) in cooling. I did state in previous pages that I actually cut the price of some parts for the "uneeded" stuff. Like I didn't need more than 1TB for my hdd so I went for 1, same with my processor I had 2 choice, either go sandy bridges processor wich have way better overclocking abilities with some cooling solution, or go for a ivy-bridge pretty good processor (unlocked or not it's pretty good already). If I startled you or anything there might be a "missunderstanding" on both party. I don't want to pay unecessary money (even if it's just 30$ on my processor or on cooling) I'm 21 years old and you don't have enough money every 3-4 years for a new computer, I'm actually pretty lucky.
ty xaiolu for the sign :3
Arkharan wrote:
I might go for a cheap one or a better one. I stated the GTX 660 Ti, but I might end up with a 560 too. (I'm still looking for my graphic card, as you can see I didn't write any yet, the integrated one is gonna do a fine job while I make up my mind)
I don't want to pay unecessary money (even if it's just 30$ on my processor or on cooling) I'm 21 years old and you don't have enough money every 3-4 years for a new computer, I'm actually pretty lucky.
If you don't think you'll be needing much in terms graphics performance you SHOULD get get the HD7870, HD7850 1GB or the GTX660 (read: NOT GTX660 Ti). The 7870 and 7850 both have better price/performance than the GTX 660Ti. And I'm pretty sure the GTX660 will too. But as I stated before; you should probably wait for the GTX660 to come out. It's coming in ~2weeks.
Don't bother with the Nvidia 500 series. They weren't very good. AMD's 6000 series were leaps and bounds above Nvidia's 500 series. Their 600 series are pretty good though.
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for the 4770K like tomshardware said, go up to 4,5 GHZ and your computer starts thermal throttling.
I think they might have been using an inferior (or as you refer to it: "ok thermal solution") heatsink/fan.
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So just for the .4-.5 you're going to need "ok termal solution, just a better cpufan/heatsink" and now if you wanna go for more .5-1.5 let's say you're going to need good to extremely good cooling (100$-200$) in cooling.
I don't know where you got this idea that good cooling is expensive from :/
It's very wrong.
I know the 3770 doesn't overclock really well, but it's not bad. I'm pretty sure you can reach 4GHz with just a standard Intel fan. Which in turn is ~15% free performance.
Good cooling solutions go for as little as 60$ (or 70, Newegg is kinda confusing me :/)
Sweclockers used the Zalman CNPS 9900 MAX to overclock their i7 to 4.7GHz. And they did not experience thermal throttling.
Sweclockers did overclock the Sandy Bridge i7 to 4.9GHz though, so the Sandy Bridge CPUs does overclock noticeably better.
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I think you can't read at all lol
i7 3770 K or not, with turbo goes up to 3,9 then any normal people that don't want to spend huge ammount of money won't go over 4,5 so we're talking about .4 yeah pretty much. Your website does it? Cool, they have the money to do it. Your main goal by overclocking is to reach values you could reach with a higher cpu. (Pay less same performance) I just bought a 3770 and I can go up to 3,9 still in turbo? Why would I bother spending 100-200$ in cooling for .4 or .5 when I don't even need it?
You've got to be kidding me...
Get your facts straight before trying to correct me.
Good cooling can be as cheap as 50 or 60bucks. Great cooling can be more expensive at ~80-100bucks, but 200$? Get real kiddo..
CPU Turbo only works when you're loading 1 core, while overclocking works ALL THE TIME. So Turbo frequencies=/= real frequencies. You clearly don't even know how the Turbo works..
Cool, but that does not disprove anything I wrote.
I corrected you. You were incorrect in your statement about space. That is not and has never been relevant to airflow.
SLI and Crossfire is generally a bad idea. Bugs and scaling issues are very prominent. You'll get maybe ~60% better performance with 2 cards instead of 1.