Bard Theorycrafting

[quote=NicknameMy][[spellthief's edge]] is mostly used because it generates passive gold even while not in lane and has more utility on roaming champions, as you generate gold during ganks.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce][quote=NicknameMy][[spellthief's edge]] is mostly used because it generates passive gold even while not in lane and has more utility on roaming champions, as you generate gold during ganks.[/quote] Coin/medalion have the exact same passive gold gain rate :P (2 gps) And you arguably get the same amount of gold while ganking if you stick around for a few minion deaths xD EDIT: Maw pls, I've tried spellthief on both Janna and Soraka and based on my own personal results medalion is better :p I guess it's just cause I don't like playing aggressive with champs who suck at it, since vs most decent players I get poked back 10 times harder than my punny shield + autos/Q+banana harass.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[ancient coin]] doesn't have that bonus. And you have to get [[boots of mobility]] and [[sightstone]] before you can upgrade it.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]the issue is that to get around the same gold as one Q + auto + meep with spellthief you need to stay around for eight minions and steal XP with coin. not worth.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]fair enough I guess. Either way wont be playing this champ until his pre 6 becomes a little more tolerable :< Neither way seems to be efficent[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The coach of CW and EL talked about [[bard]] in the german IEM stream, they said he will most likely see no use at all, and if, only in a laneswap where he can use his roam.[/quote]

[quote=Hatted]Best theory I've heard is him being a support. Or everyone saying "I got this."[/quote]

[quote=Bubicica]Does [[Cosmic Binding]] stun up to 4 people with [[Luden's Echo]]? Getting Bard today.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Bubicica]Does [[Cosmic Binding]] stun up to 4 people with [[Luden's Echo]]?[/quote] No it does not. At least, it shouldn't.[/quote]

[quote=Bubicica]Meh tested, it doesn't. I'm not sure if it's worth building any AP on him really. His damage is quite awful even with ~200 AP and 60+ Chimes. Maybe a full utility thing suits him better. Although definetly the most fun champ I played in a while. Junglers need to adapt to Bard. Setting up a gank is a piece of cake (with ult and portal).[/quote]