Last Whisper

[quote=Jet]no its not cause the other AD char, assuming it's someone that isn't melee, will get LW[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Lugignaf] Because LW becomes less effective the less armor they have, that's why.[/quote] Jet, this is exactly what LW does. Even though it's less important than reducing the effects of high armor, it still has the side-effect that it gets less effective than TBC against low armor targets. I've presented the facts and my thesis is that there are very good reasons for using TBC over LW on Tristana and Vayne for example. If you can't come to this conclusion yourself I'm a little sad for you. If high elo choices matter then doesn't it matter that Locodoco uses TBC on Tristana?[/quote]

[quote=Jet]i have yet to see him actually go TBC on tristana in any game i've seen him in also this: http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=7[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=Pwnzor1130] Jet is truly the master of this game, and as such we should all listen to him. [/quote] No, Jet is not the master of this game, high elo is. And high elo agrees with jet and I. Vayne - http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=1270 Ezreal - http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=838 Ashe - http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=633(recommends AGAINST tbc) Tristana - http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=7 These are kinda good players who make these builds.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]ppl need to stop say "player X use item Y on champion Z so item Y on champion Z is totaly imba" and start to actually think by themself .[/quote]

[quote=SryImBad][quote=Jet] no its not cause the other AD char, assuming it's someone that isn't melee, will get LW [/quote] DID YOU JUST DISAGREE WITH ME WITH 3 WORDS? Jet... Having TBC causes -45 armor to the target, nevertheless the target, it's still more dominant. I don't get you. Why would any AD char get LW besides for the cherry on top? To focus Tanks? To attack Rammus/Malphite endlessly with auto attacks?[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=AnIh] ppl need to stop say "player X use item Y on champion Z so item Y on champion Z is totaly imba" and start to actually think by themself . [/quote] By this you are basically saying that "just because players better than me are [i]almost always[/i] building LW over TBC doesn't mean I should listen". If you don't think these guys don't theorycraft their builds with other high elo players just like we theorycraft with each other, you are mistaken. Therainman popularized wriggle's teemo. It turned out that wriggle's teemo was way op. Bigfatjiji popularized AP TF, it turned out AP TF was "totally imba". Most of the time it has been proven that high elo is pretty much always right.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]to be fair, jiji didn't popularize AP TF AP TF was basically the only way to play him before, the changes gave him the opportunity to be played as a viable DPS champion while maintaining his AP ratios to make him a threat in both scenarios as for searz: he only buys TBC if their tank doesn't even get over 120 armor but it's high elo, they will have that armor[/quote]

[quote=AnIh][quote=EvilDice] [quote=AnIh] ppl need to stop say "player X use item Y on champion Z so item Y on champion Z is totaly imba" and start to actually think by themself . [/quote] By this you are basically saying that "just because players better than me are [i]almost always[/i] building LW over TBC doesn't mean I should listen". If you don't think these guys don't theorycraft their builds with other high elo players just like we theorycraft with each other, you are mistaken. Therainman popularized wriggle's teemo. It turned out that wriggle's teemo was way op. Bigfatjiji popularized AP TF, it turned out AP TF was "totally imba". Most of the time it has been proven that high elo is pretty much always right. [/quote] you dont understand , these players like every other players in lol can have good idea , idea you can not have but yourself so you should consider their build like every other build and ask yourself if doing X other Y can be useful why and in which situation , saying because guy X use item Y then you should use item Y is just totaly retarded , use your brain and consider item Y by yourself .[/quote]

[quote=Jet]uh but i am i've said exactly why lw is better but all searz can pull is "herp derp more damaage on 3 stacks vs low armor"[/quote]