Nocturne and Trinity Force...

[quote=ExamplePrime]http://www.gamereplays.org/leagueoflegends/replays.php?game=66&show=details&id=196342 I go for Wriggles then Hexdrinker before building for more damage and tankiness although it changes late game I was testing him out on my brothers account because he bought him so the people I were playing were pretty nooby (however so were my team mates) But that replay gives an idea of the damage he can output[/quote]

[quote=Atheb]mercs are nice on any melee. CC is your worst enemy. i personally really like a brutalizer first followed by a black cleaver (attackspeed for your passive, Ad for your skills, armorshred. - duskbringer and ult stronger, passive proccs more often, auto attacks ofc stronger...all in one item)...will try zeal some times but brutalizer is just so cool^^. if there is not that much CC i like to get speed3 boots or ionians. A friend of mine told me that its pretty good to stack hextech gunblade. well E got a good ratio and you got a slow with it. will try it sometimes, but i dont know. defensive item... hm i used BV last games bcause i found doubleshield quite funny and the mana is usefull to. but i guess there is no get this all the time defensive item. guess hexdrinker is good against squishy mages, BV good against magc and cc initiate, ga good if you dont die too often, fon against fuckin heavy casters frozen hearth against carryheavy team... i once even used warmog just for fun EDIT: one question to all: do you jungle him? i like his ganking but i dont like his jungling (he gets pretty weak is easy to counter and has to go b). i'm actually laning him. Works better for me what about you?[/quote]

[quote=Scrax]To above poster; I tried jungling with him, but he doesn't really get "effective" before level 3-4. I just did mini golems, wraiths, wolfs, blue, if enough health; Gank top, recall. Also counter-jungle if the enemy team have a jungler at lvl two or three, as he is QUITE strong early game. Caught a Tryndamere trying to do lizard, he had 50% hp. Owned him and stole lizard :)[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Check out Stonewall008's jungle tutorials on youtube to see how to jungle the most effective way with him.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]This is what im doing atm and i'm loving it :][center][img]http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9836/noc.png[/img][/center][/quote]

[quote=Searz]@Booshido Looks pretty good, but I'm in doubt over how good he is in the lane.. Oh, and you'll need to switch those boots to Merc. They're simply better.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]i honestly was cced that often, when you come in its like *mindfuck* and imo cd is amaazing, but sure i'd go mercs in serious games. when you get the phage brut and zeal, its like op mid game mode, its quite nice, laning is ok, hes great mid against ranged carries[/quote]

[quote=FreestyleZer0][quote=Searz] Looks pretty good, but I'm in doubt over how good he is in the lane.. Oh, and you'll need to switch those boots to Merc. They're simply better. [/quote] Well, i never jungle with him, basicly as he doesn't have the capabilities to keep jungling as long as fiddlesticks, warwick etc. I just lane with him and that works out even better as most people underestimate the damage he can do. He deals tons of extra damage with his duskbringer active (which also deals damage when it hits), it's like 1/6th of a squishy's hp per hit and god he hits FAST. As for more tanky champs, at the start he will hit 1/8th of their hp so basicly still enough. Most people just go close and get murdered by the high damage (only those who have seen a laning nocturne know of the horror he is at the start and flee in time). I usually take exhaust as i want to keep people closeby aswell as have a way to escape high damage from champs like tryndamere, ignite doesn't feel like it is worth it to me. As for the mid lane, yeah it works awesome to, went against heimerdinger mid, rofl at that, i nuked him down from the middle to his tower and then used my ulti to quickly get him and run to the right (i used my ulti to jump through the turret at heimer), made it out with like 2 dots of hp.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=FreestyleZer0] Well, i never jungle with him, basicly as he doesn't have the capabilities to keep jungling as long as fiddlesticks, warwick etc.[/quote] He's just as good as they are.. Just check out Stonewall008's youtube video.[/quote]

[quote=Atheb][quote=Searz] [quote=FreestyleZer0] Well, i never jungle with him, basicly as he doesn't have the capabilities to keep jungling as long as fiddlesticks, warwick etc.[/quote] He's just as good as they are.. Just check out Stonewall008's youtube video. [/quote] i did , i tried to follow it. you seem to need optimal runes for some paths. you cant say he jungles as good as warwick. thats simply not true. warwick can jungle with a single hp pot and cloth and finish with dragon at 6 extremly fast. with just going b before dragon. with nocturne in most cases youll have to go b while jungling and afterwards before you go gank. i dont think you could do dragon at 5.... the time in stonewalls videos is really the optimum and i tried often to reach it and failed. or died. (jungling with scepter doesnt work for me oO.) while in lane i dominate most of the time, his early dmg is sick. duskbringer hits for a lot, if you stand on dusk you will hit for a lot, shield is awesome and you have CC. im not saying he is better in lane than in jungling but he is really not that great of a jungler[/quote]