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Theory: Full AD team owns!

Creator: Capn_Evan December 23, 2011 5:23am
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The calculations are wrong! Stark's only work twice on a team comp, but the fact remains :)

So, I recently played against an established team in Normal game (they had those brackets) which consisted of Warwick (captain), Master Yi, Ezreal, Sivir and Tryndamere.

The thing was, they owned us in every fight, even though we all bought Thornmail and a lot of armor. The reason was simple; first, they all went Stark's Favor, which together gave them 100% lifesteal, 120% attack speed and 150 health regen per 5! Stacked with Warwicks' Hunter's call, Sivirs' On The Hunt and Ezreals' Essence Flux, they could reach +100% lifesteal, +155% attack speed, +25% movement speed and 150 health regen, if said abilities were level 1, which they usually weren't (Warwick maxed his W first).

Now I'm just saying, this was without additional items. Include self-boosting AD items, and your opponents are in for one hard match. Like we did. In the end, they could penetrate our Nasus' 350 armor and 4k hp in less than 4 seconds.

Any thoughts to this?
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Full AD doesn't stand a chance vs. double AP.

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Zeke's Harbinger doesn't work like that, just saying. You can only receive an aura effect once, or if you also own the item, twice.

So they were getting +40 attack speed, +60 health regeneration, and +40% life steal.

That said I was watching Guardsman Bob's stream recently, as I often do, and he's been expressing his veiw a lot lately that team comp, at least in terms of damage type, is mostly irrelevant - the most important thing is simply winning your lanes.
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Theory; Full AD team wins a game!

Counterpoints; There's essentially 2 kinds of comps that will beat that without many problems.

AoE atom bomb or Assassin comps both should win.

Galio solo top OR Amumu or Fiddles jungle, Brand or Gragas or even Annie mid, Graves bot, Sona or Taric or Alistar bot. GG. If even one of these ults lands it's a tough fight for 5 squishy champs. If 2 land they're all ****ed lol.

Or assassin comps. Again, Amumu jungle or Galio top, Akali top or mid and Ahri top or mid, Katarina mid, Vayne or graves bot, etc.

Not to mention all the easy 1 champion counters to ranged and melee AD, like Tryndamere, Lee sin, and Malphite.

Not to mention Frozen heart and Randuin's Omen.

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Get early armor, they cant counter with just Stark's.
All of them need to afford Last Whisper as 3rd-4th item or take Madred's.
While they're at it you can totally shut them down.
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Start "stupid-grouping" and work on killing them one at a time.

AD carries in general will win team fights. Not ganks though.
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Ah, I see, well I did wrong on the calculations, but it didn't change the fact that they won, even though everyone on our team bought Thornmail, and our tank (Nasus) got Frozen Heart and other counters too. It won't change the fact that a steroid team is a great choice. Also very underestimated.

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I remember a season one solo-quee ranked i played.. The 3 first guys all picked AD-carries cuz they were all best at it -.-'

Well, we ended with at troll-comp of 5 ap-carries ALL having Smite-Rally.
I ended up as Jungle Ez.

Needless to say, mid-game teamfights were hell.. We all ended up getting assasinated 1 by 1. But then Lategame.. They couldn't touch us. I got Tri-force and GA and played the role as a Tank/Initiate but when their akali came at me trying to instakill me with that 150'ish armour, one funny thing happened, she died :D

WE ****ING WON THAT GAME! :D
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An all AD team huh...well one champion alone can screw them.

Mordekaiser hue hue hue hue hue hue.

(Note I did this once, and they got screwed).
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I'll try it some more, they certainly aren't as viable as I thought, but they can pack a real punch, especially late-game. Remember I just said that they avoided teamfights early, and pushed or towers in no time at all. When we tried to gank them, they either out-ran us or counter-ganked us back, using ultimates.
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