Thoughts on AD Zilean?

[quote=KillaTheNinja]I've always wondered if this is viable, and only tried it on bots (went amazingly well, but they're bots). What brought it to my attention was when auto-attacking with Zil, his crits seemed to stand out more than any other mage. o_o They REALLY hurt. He essentially has a gimped exhaust and ghost, maybe you could think of his Q as a very gimped ignite to get the finishing damage on those with low health that you can longer no pursue. I've wanted to try it in a normal, don't really know why I haven't. Maybe because it's a potentially horrible idea? I guess one draw would be his horrible base movement speed. A Manumune should give you enough mana to spam your abilities to chase and what not. :3 Just a thought. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I think it's pretty bad. Sure he hits "hard" but, his AA's don't have the best range. Also, He's really more burst. Even though he's not full burst.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]He's essentially the same as any other mage with some sort of CC/slow, they would work-ish as an AD carry, but why would you want to use them when you have REAL ranged AD carries?[/quote]

[quote=KillaTheNinja]I wasn't sure about his range, haven't played him in a long time, but even someone like Teemo with bad range makes a great AD carry (yes, Teemo can be an AD carry). His abilities also offer good escapes and gap closers.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Farming is a nightmare, attack animation is slow, natural attack speed and attack damage is low. I'll leave it at that.[/quote]

[quote=Scrax][quote=KillaTheNinja] I wasn't sure about his range, haven't played him in a long time, but even someone like Teemo with bad range makes a great AD carry (yes, Teemo can be an AD carry). His abilities also offer good escapes and gap closers. [/quote] Difference is Teemo can blind, he has a poison to add damage, he can move quick to kite, and he has immensely good map control to avoid being ganked thanks to his shrooms.[/quote]

[quote=KillaTheNinja][quote=Xenasis] He's essentially the same as any other mage with some sort of CC/slow, they would work-ish as an AD carry, but why would you want to use them when you have REAL ranged AD carries? [/quote]Don't know...it would be funny? Heh, I just thought he could be effect with such a great slow and speed up. [quote=B-Wong] Farming is a nightmare, attack animation is slow, natural attack speed and attack damage is low. I'll leave it at that. [/quote] [quote=Scrax] Difference is Teemo can blind, he has a poison to add damage, he can move quick to kite, and he has immensely good map control to avoid being ganked thanks to his shrooms. [/quote] True true. Perhaps not a good idea after all.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=B-Wong] Farming is a nightmare, attack animation is slow, natural attack speed and attack damage is low. I'll leave it at that. [/quote] That's why you have Zeal-ean.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]He's got high mana costs and no AD ratios. Not quite ideal for an AD carry..[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Fun - OK, very much ok Normal - NO Ranked - NO it is as good idea as AP Garen.[/quote]