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[quote=Rincrow][quote=caucheka] i see. even still, i wouldn't waste my ult just to try and solo dragon. i'd get my team. [/quote] The idea behind this is to do it as early as possible. Seeing as teams go for dragon around the 12 minute mark before. You can sneak in a early dragon around the 7-8 minute mark. Just notify your team that you want to sneak in a dragon and to keep their lanes occupied. Or if they can to come over without drawing attention for the opposing team. And your opposing team would be none the wiser that such a thing happened.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]No, it's immune to shreds/reductions. Try it with Karth wall. No reduction.[/quote]

[quote=Rincrow][quote=Lugignaf] No, it's immune to shreds/reductions. Try it with Karth wall. No reduction. [/quote] Its for the lifedrain it gives you. Not for the shred. Its been a while since debuffs worked on dragon/baron.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Rincrow] It's not for the armor/mr shred. its for the lifesteal (lifedrain?) it gives you. It's risky but if you can pull it off its well worth it. [/quote] [quote=Rincrow] Its for the lifedrain it gives you. Not for the shred. Its been a while since debuffs worked on dragon/baron. [/quote] Why'd you say it did then?[/quote]

[quote=Rincrow][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Rincrow] It's not for the armor/mr shred. its for the lifesteal (lifedrain?) it gives you. It's risky but if you can pull it off its well worth it. [/quote] [quote=Rincrow] Its for the lifedrain it gives you. Not for the shred. Its been a while since debuffs worked on dragon/baron. [/quote] Why'd you say it did then? [/quote] I never did. I said you can solo dragon with your ulti. I never implied it was because of the armor/mr shred. My bad for not clarifying.[/quote]

[quote=Somalie][quote=caucheka] i see. even still, i wouldn't waste my ult just to try and solo dragon. i'd get my team. [/quote] Get your team (mia mid and mia bot), the enemy team understands in 3 secs what you are doing and comes to constest or at least has the timer for the next one. Do it alone early, if there is no ward nothing will come to contest it and they wont have the timer. It takes you more time to kill it, but in fact you kill it earlier in the game. Fiddle, even if not as good as trundle (as jungler/ganker), can do it too and it clearly help the team, 190 golds that early is super important, to counterbuild and/or have sustain earlier and win lanes.[/quote]

[quote=Rincrow][quote=Somalie] Get your team (mia mid and mia bot), the enemy team understands in 3 secs what you are doing and comes to constest or at least has the timer for the next one. Do it alone early, if there is no ward nothing will come to contest it and they wont have the timer. It takes you more time to kill it, but in fact you kill it earlier in the game. Fiddle, even if not as good as trundle (as jungler/ganker), can do it too and it clearly help the team, 190 golds that early is super important, to counterbuild and/or have sustain earlier and win lanes. [/quote] Exactly. Its a great tactic for messing up the enemies dragon timer, giving your team a considerable advantage during the laneing/farming phase. On a sidenote I don't really like fiddlesticks in the jungle since the jungle rework.[/quote]