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League of Legends (LoL) Question: How to Preseason 5 Jungle?

Posted in General | Tags: Hunter's Machete Jarvan IV Lee Sin Nocturne Rengar Shaco Warwick Xin Zhao 31,007

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    How to Preseason 5 Jungle?

    Hello, I haven't truly jangled and known completely what I was doing since season 1, I have been forced into it and have done mediocre at best but this season I would like to be more useful when I get stuck in the only role I don't know how top play.

    Questions:
    Where is the best place to start? Is it still Blue for the mana and Red for the manaless?

    Is there any other place to start then Red and Blue?

    With the new jungle and items, when is the most appropriate time/level to gank?

    Assuming I start with Machete and two pots, do I rush the new smite items or grab something in between?

    What is your jungle tier list?

    Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
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    LevasK (108) | November 22, 2014 12:33am
    Please keep in mind that almost everything related to jungle is extremely situational and the new jungle is still very new.

    From what I can tell you still want to start the buff that's closest to your bottom lane (Red buff when you are Blue side; Blue buff when you are Purple side).This however is not set in stone and can vary depending on stuff like :
    • Which lane do you intend to gank 1st?
    • What jungler you are playing?
    • Are you expecting an invade from the enemy jungler?
    And many other factors.

    Some people have been experimenting with start at Gromp or Krugs, but I think that you should always start at a Buff.

    It's very hard to say for certain as I mentioned it depends on what's going in the game, but I think that you should 1st look at your health and position of your lanes (if they are pushing/being pushed in, how much health they/their opponent(s) have) and then decide, if you want to gank, but I've seen people doing both level 3 and level 4 ganks, so decide for yourself.

    In my opinion you should always rush the Smite upgrade and the full jungle item, cuz the stats that it gives are just too good to pass/delay.

    Personally I don't have a tier list, but here's a link to a thread that might help you with that. From what I've seen/tested myself I think that Warwick, Zac, Sejuani, Fiddlesticks and possibly Kha'Zix are all solid picks in S5 jungle.

    Once I get more time with the new jungle I will be able to answer your questions better, but here's a link to the Season 5 Jungle Discussion thread, you might find some useful information there and good luck in the new jungle.
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    Blitzfazerz13 | November 23, 2014 3:51am
    Nope. The only jungle king around is rengar. They can't nerf him cause, they will also nerf kha' zix. Which will be a big effect in jungling. Nunu is also good to use. But Hecarim has a big advantage in jungle. His narrow 3 and 4 skills will hit more accurately, his wide 1 and 2 skills will get hit more.
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    Steamrolled | November 22, 2014 1:53pm
    Thank you so much man, I tried WW jungle and its insane how he can instagib carries with Skirmisher's Sabre with Devourer + Smite.
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    emoriam (287) | November 22, 2014 11:07am
    I've heard Kha'Zix isn't that great anymore. Elise is still somewhat strong and everyone is talking about the mighty Nunu & Willump :p
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    Nukeman | November 27, 2014 3:30pm
    Personally, i will always start at Gromp or Krugs, then go to my buff second.
    This allows me to get a speedy level 2, as it's faster to clear Gromp or Krugs than the buffs; and it gives me a nice smite bonus effect to help my clears.

    Optimally; tanky champs or champs with clear with spells more than auto-attacks will start at Gromp. I find the poison armor to help speed up my first clear and be able to gank faster.
    However, with auto-attack based champs i find that the smite bonus on krugs (the periodic stun off of your basic attacks) is best for clearing the jungle quickly and without taking too much damage. When starting Krugs, I tend to skip red buff at first and clear raptors, Then, once my smite is back up, I will clear red and smite it to get the 20% of my max health heal. This allows me to either gank immediately with plenty of HP, or to clear the rest of the jungle with ease
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    SNOBOY (13) | December 12, 2014 9:33am
    This is the best way to start, go to the gromp or krugs smite them to get the on hit effect, and then move to next buff. I prefer to not smite blue buff as most champions unless I have to because the effects of using smite on it suck. Blue buff already gives you plenty of mana regen, you don't really need to instant boost in mana. However, smiting to get true vision, or on hit effects is extremely useful. Also my tip is go back to base right after you use smite the second time, and have enough money to upgrade to the next jungle item, especially with patch 4.21.
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    Lemur9753 (1) | December 14, 2014 9:19am
    Well i often play Lee sin and start with Golems, while smiting them (or smite red when you´re not a sustain jungler), go then to your red buff and then to blue while smiting blue. After that you should be lvl 3 and ready to gank. After one or two ganks i normally recall. You can also start this route with Gromp-->Blue-->red.
    My favourite Junglers right now are Rammus,Lee and shen and they sustained quite well. I also enyojed playing Nunu but i haven´t played him that often but i also think that he is good.
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    RottedApples (57) | November 22, 2014 7:23am
    as far as buff starts you can tailor that to where you will be needed first. Just because a jungler has mana does not mean you are required to start blue.
    Vi for example can grab Denting Blows level 1 and start red just fine.
    Even junglers that use mana such as Udyr (before preseason at least) can start red and get to blue with just enough mana to do it.

    From what i was observing in pro level (before all this lane swap ******** started happening) junglers were starting whichever buff was opposite the first lane they wanted to gank/counter gank, usually that was the buff near bottom lane to gank/counter gank top lane.

    As for the new season I don't know, try some stuff and see how it works, think about whether you need to farm or gank and get the right smite for the job. see what champions are good and what aren't. do you want to invade? what enchantment should you get? all of these are situational to each and every game and you won't learn it just by asking some people. Yes it helps but sometimes you need to figure some stuff out for yourself.
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    Steamrolled | November 22, 2014 1:55pm
    I understand you, I just didnt want to gimp myself because I chose to start off in the wrong area or break away from the 'meta'.
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    crashstash5 (2) | December 7, 2014 5:22pm
    my personal thoughts on the strongest jungler right now are Warwick, Nunu, and Shen/Ammumu. Starting at the toad (smite) then blue then wolves (smite) recall get items then go red (smite) birds - golems (smite) and gank whenever you feel like you should.
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