They're all hard to play ( Sylas is a bit easier than Syndra and Zoe).
It depends on how you prefer to play and who you like.
Syndra she can instant;y delete a squishy with her ultimate. She is a dominant laner but can be susceptible to ganks if you use your E too often. She provides so much damage, helps in team fights, and scales well.
Sylas Sylas isn't that good outside of pro play and is pretty conditional. He can roll games if the enemies give you good ults to work with, but otherwise, he's a little squishy for his frontline playstyle.
Zoe To actually be really good at Zoe, it will take some time, but I say stick with it if it's enjoyable for you cause she is a beast. She has a negative winrate right now because it is really hard to actually play well and many people lose a few games with her and drop her.
I personally prefer Syndra or Zoe. Syndra can deal her damage easier and Zoe needs to be tricky. They're both strong so investing time in them will be worth it. Sylas is more dependent than those, but If you like play him. A good Sylas can be a game-changer.
New month,more comments, am I right? I started tomplay talon, so I have a small idea of the mid lane. I hate it when people put akali so
Low. I mean, she is a decently hard champion to play, but if you fight a one trick akali, your gonna lose, even in a teamfights situation. And veigar, he is good, but THAT good?
Yepp, new comments. (btw could u win?)
I put Akali in "dependent" tier list. She's great. Dependent tier champions can work pretty well but not always. Akali has a low wr and is hard to play. If you know how to play her well and care for counters, she will be awsome. If u don't it won't work well. It's correct for all champions here but champions on Dependent tier rely on that more. Akali is great. putting her in Dependent tier kinda means that people who don't know how to play her well won't get good results. And If the enemy knows how to counter her, it would be trouble. Akali uses so much energy to use Q (Specially early game) And have more down sides and nerfs compared to other hard champs like Katarina. (I personally find Kata the hardest.)
Hi, just gonna write another big comment.
Could you move vel Koz up, because the guy can poke you out so you can never even get one minion, and could you move signs up one because I feel like people have no idea how strong he can be even though he is weak and squishy.
hi, thank you for commenting on my tier list.
about Vel'Koz, I think he's in a right place. all of the champs on 2nd tier are good and I don't think Vel'Koz has much difference in power. Actually, his skills are pretty easy to dodge compared to champs like LeBlanc or Kassadin who are in the same tier as him. and I don't understand what you mean by "could you move signs up".
You may very valid points, and you make me feel bad because I find vel koz hard to dodge, but that's just me. Also, I meant ziggs, my phone has auto correct and I have had this trouble with previous comments aswell.
hmmm, Ziggs kinda have the same problem as Vel'Koz. in fact, his skills are even easier to dodge. Vel'Koz provide more CC than him and Vel'Koz's Ultimate skill is harder to dodge. I've seen many Vel'Koz supports deal more damage than their teammates but haven't experienced the same with Ziggs. he's alongside with Neeko, Lux, Annie and... which are all good champs.
sylas, kass and vlad could be as the best, if fizz, zed and yasuo are best in your opinion, bcs i feel like those three champs has even higher carry potential than zed or fizz
hmmm, Sylas and Kassadin are great in high elo. But not much presence in lower elos (specially low elo Sylas players). I was trying to keep the guide general. I made some changes though. This made me think about changing my tier list to low elo and high elo sections. I'll start working on it soon. thank you for commenting on my tier list.
Yes you are right but kassadin can be very strong even in low elo, bcs he is not rly hard to play, he just needs late/mid game. Btw it is great idea to do tier lists for both elos :)
Correct, but many champs "can" be good.
I myself carried many games as Kayle or Nocturne mid (which normally are in the wrong place. but those are my mains.)
The thing is that most players in low elo don't know how to play her (hmmm a she or a he? I dunno Kassadin's gender...)
champs like kass can carry (specially late game) but this can be the same for many more champs. My last duo had a 17 winstrike when starting new season ranked with Vladimir. And I've seen many other champs like Yasuo and Zed being played good.
many champs can.
but I can't place them all in the 1st tier.
But I'm gonna work on all of my guides and make them more accurate. It's been only 1 year since I started playing league and I'm not experienced enough. but I'll try to do my best.
Very good except Mordekaiser should be higher as he stomps most squishy champs even when they have high mobility. Mid lane, of course, is full of squishies so naturally he would be a great pick. And in my own experience, in low elo, at least, he never loses lane if played right.
Hi, Thank you for commenting on my Tier list.
I'm not sure about that. I agree that he can win most match ups in low tier but I'm kinda trying to keep it an overall tier. The problem with morde is that most of his match ups will be mages who can poke him easily. Morde has a better experience against pokes and such things because of his skills but it's easy to dodge his E (and it has a long cooldown) and if the enemy survive his R morde can't really do much withough his R because his enemy keeps punishing him. (which is easier in mid lane because the towers are closer. if his enemy don't push the wave morde can't benefit from his R much).
as you know, It's really easy to kite morde and dodge his Qs. maybe in low elo he can destroy mages, but in high elo this won't happen. and he won't build much MR so it will be tough for him. I think top laners like Trynda have more chance in such situations.
however, I moved him to Dependent tier because I think that matches him more. I think morde is really a dependent pick on mid.
fair enough. btw dependent doesn't mean bad. it's in the name. can be perfect, can be awful. I think champs in this tier are more dependent on their player's experience.
for example Akali, she's been through so much change and had a big change in her wr but her experienced players still managed to do well. luck in the journey...
Sylas and qiyana are pretty good right now i think they should be a tier higher as they may have a high skill cap but are very solid sylas has a broken early game with his healing he is not balanced for the first 30 min of the game and qiyana well just 1 shots everyone
hi. I updated the guide.
The reason I put Qiyana was because of her low winrate. She's really good but when I put her there she had a low wr. (mostly because of her low elo players. I remember that jungle Qiyana used to have the lowest wr. I guess it was around 37-38%). Thank you for your suggestion.
people are trying that too?!
I'm personally not okay with these attempts... it feels like top laners are coming mid. I've fought many Tryndameres recently... Honestly I dunno if you're joking or not :|... usually top laners who can force engage come mid but I don't see it work well usually.
I'll think about it anyway :|
HAHAHAAHAAAHh Zed is in your opinion tier 1??? This champ is the most useless midlaner now, mannnnn. Why are you place him on tier 1? Zed must win line to be good in this meta. Won line on zed is very easy, you must slowpush him, you have to have more minions than he. Then it won't be such a big problem for you to win this lane. :-D
By the way Ryze and Aurelion dependent, are you sure about that? Maybe in Bronze or Silver yes.
Good Ryze can win a lot of bad games the same Aurelion. That champs are difficult but they are pretty good.
About Ryze and Aurelion Sol, I put them in the last tier because Ryze doesn't have a good overall wr at all.(usually between 46-47%). His low elo players are really bad and the only place he currently have chances to shines in, is High elo. And about Aurelion Sol, as we all know he got nerfed a lot in recent patches and I rarely even see him in mid tier lists. I often check other popular tierlists from sites like [mobalytics.gg, rankedboost.com, tierlist.gg, etc] to make sure my thoughts aren't just dependent on personal experience. ( Ryze Aurelion Sol and they're in Dependent tier. It DOESN'T mean they're bad. it mostly means they depend on the player who plays them and when to play them)
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and about Zed. He doesn't usually rely on winning lane because he's one of the best roamers. I understand that he got some laning problems (which depends on his enemy) but good zed players know how to play with team. When a good Ryze/ Aurelion Sol can shine, I'm pretty much sure a good Zed can shine even more.
everybody has their own opinion.I'm personally a zed main and I don't lose lane very often...either people don't know how to exploit my weaknesses or maybe I'm a good zed :)
I mean I can often get 2-3 kills in lane too before the enemy realizes how broken my damage is and starts kissing the turret.At that point,I can either stay on lane an CS like a lame dude,or I can go and make their botlane surrender at 15 minutes :)
I don't think Vel'Koz, Syndra, Ahri or debatable with Lissandra should be in that low of a tier, if they are played correctly then they could easily make it into the Good tier, without effort.
Hi Fruxo. Thanks for your opinion. I made some changes in it and used your thoughts. Btw, I really like to know what's your opinion on these champs as mid laners: Akali (she got nerfed a lot, but I don't play her so I honestly don't know much about her. I put her there because of her low wr (44%)) Pyke, Ryze, Zilean, Mordekaiser
Zilean, Mordekaiser and Pyke are all pretty decent, has decent winrates and if played correctly they can be strong. With that said, I do not think they are stronger than the ones I just mentioned above. If anything you can put up Morde & Pyke to the average tier, but meh.
Ryze is just a meme at this point, his winrate is sooo terrible that it's sad, either move him down or keep him at the tier he's currently in.
Akali is both good and bad. Bad in the way that her average winrate is so low that the average player can barely win with her (also because of her many patches with frequent nerfs), meaning that she should be in the low tier. Only times when she becomes good is if she is played in the hands of players that know how to play her properly.
Hey Seloronios,
I like your tier list and agree with most champions. However, I've wondered why you put Syndra and Cassiopeia into the second tier. Personally, I'm not a mid main, so I might be mistaken here, but I always thought they're pretty strong. Also, Veigar should be at least in the "good" or A tier because he usually builds AP tank and still manages to have over 1000 AP damage in last game.
Just my thoughts. Lets me know what you think. :]
Hi Wicked Cherry. (I see lots of people doing it like this, I mean writing the name after saying hi, seems so formal xD. btw cute name) Cassiopeia was in the Good tier already, and I think she really deserves it. She's really strong through out the game. I also changed the place of Veigar and Syndra. Veigar also got a [smol buff for a smol boy] recently so I think he really is in the meta. However, I'm not much sure about Syndra yet. Her wr is a little lower than Veigar and Cassiopeia (49%-51%-51%). Syndra has a really good place in High-ELO (kinda like LeBlanc) and I kinda tried to keep the guide overall and not dependent to different elos.
Please check the tier list again and tell me your thoughts :)
It depends on how you prefer to play and who you like.
I personally prefer
Low. I mean, she is a decently hard champion to play, but if you fight a one trick akali, your gonna lose, even in a teamfights situation. And veigar, he is good, but THAT good?
I put
Could you move vel Koz up, because the guy can poke you out so you can never even get one minion, and could you move signs up one because I feel like people have no idea how strong he can be even though he is weak and squishy.
about
Added! Thank you for telling me.
I myself carried many games as
The thing is that most players in low elo don't know how to play her (hmmm a she or a he? I dunno
champs like kass can carry (specially late game) but this can be the same for many more champs. My last duo had a 17 winstrike when starting new season ranked with
many champs can.
but I can't place them all in the 1st tier.
But I'm gonna work on all of my guides and make them more accurate. It's been only 1 year since I started playing league and I'm not experienced enough. but I'll try to do my best.
I'm not sure about that. I agree that he can win most match ups in low tier but I'm kinda trying to keep it an overall tier. The problem with morde is that most of his match ups will be mages who can poke him easily. Morde has a better experience against pokes and such things because of his skills but it's easy to dodge his E (and it has a long cooldown) and if the enemy survive his R morde can't really do much withough his R because his enemy keeps punishing him. (which is easier in mid lane because the towers are closer. if his enemy don't push the wave morde can't benefit from his R much).
as you know, It's really easy to kite morde and dodge his Qs. maybe in low elo he can destroy mages, but in high elo this won't happen. and he won't build much MR so it will be tough for him. I think top laners like Trynda have more chance in such situations.
however, I moved him to Dependent tier because I think that matches him more. I think morde is really a dependent pick on mid.
for example
The reason I put
I'm personally not okay with these attempts... it feels like top laners are coming mid. I've fought many
I'll think about it anyway :|
By the way Ryze and Aurelion dependent, are you sure about that? Maybe in Bronze or Silver yes.
Good Ryze can win a lot of bad games the same Aurelion. That champs are difficult but they are pretty good.
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and about
I like your tier list and agree with most champions. However, I've wondered why you put
Just my thoughts. Lets me know what you think. :]
Cheers, Wicked Cherry.
Please check the tier list again and tell me your thoughts :)
Well done. ♥