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Tommy TEOP's Tier List Tommy TEOP's Tier List
Last updated on March 28, 2022
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sex12345 | December 20, 2021 11:23pm
Yeah sett is really annoying, he is everywhere now, his engages are so powerfull especially when you're a weak jungler or an adc lol
Lux is annoying because her ult is constantly open in mid and late
If i'm in a lane against a lux and a jhin for example, stuns are permanent
I hated morgana for her 2.25 sec root but lux as slow, roots... it's so painfull to lane agaisnt lol
But if she has no abilities or no mana i can just run at her and there's nothing left to protect her
TheImmortalEye (15) | October 18, 2021 5:06am
i see you became a fellow dio ( Sett) fan XD, i usually go sup but if i filled top instead of jng once in a blue moon i do sett top
Karinutsa (12) | September 8, 2021 11:51am
If you know how to play jungle, try Lillia. (I personally never jungle, but when I get Lillia in ARAM, I always end up with 2 quadra kills and a score like 22/2/15).

Have fun!
Milad7 (2) | July 14, 2021 11:27pm
in your idea list imo the most fun champs are : diana, senna, varus, neeko, rakan, galio. diana's damage to monster is ridiculous, after 1/2 completed items u basically can 1 shot camps, I usually have more that 10/cs per min with her in jg which is just insane for a jungler
TheImmortalEye (15) | July 1, 2021 5:49am
if you have problems vs sett its mostly important to know that like garen or darius his dmg is gated by an ability his w shield and true damage are slow and u should get to the left or right to suffer way less or no damage then kite or fight him, he cant cc you except by pulling or ulting and he has to just run to you like most juggernauts making him slow and clunky and his w is on 10 s cd to max 6 s lategame, his q is autoenhance and has basicly no cd but also isnt that dangerous, his pull is 15 to 6s and since u max it dead last its mostly 15s.

lux is a game of dodge the skillshot, try randomly going left or right so she misses then engage, the others are admittingly really hard especially in low elo where i am XD
Tommy TEOP | July 4, 2021 1:36am
Yeah sett is really annoying, he is everywhere now, his engages are so powerfull especially when you're a weak jungler or an adc lol
Lux is annoying because her ult is constantly open in mid and late
If i'm in a lane against a lux and a jhin for example, stuns are permanent
I hated morgana for her 2.25 sec root but lux as slow, roots... it's so painfull to lane agaisnt lol
But if she has no abilities or no mana i can just run at her and there's nothing left to protect her
TheImmortalEye (15) | July 5, 2021 12:19am
yeah, engaging with a gank onto a good sett is like a mordekaiser, its mostly pointless XD. i describe him as the baby of VI and darius, shares similar strenghts and weaknesses , he can only run at people and is generally slow in abilities and speed but like vi he isnt great at bursting down more than 1 or 2 ( if ur entire team stands in sett w thats their undoing XD) and can be deleted faster than a true tank.he prob gets nerfed soon anyway and honestly his kit itself is fair ( as fair as all juggernauts can be)
TheImmortalEye (15) | June 8, 2021 6:44am
lucian bot isnt in the greatest spot now dont get me wrong not bad but u should try to get a braum support onboard as he negates lucians pokeability and they can do a braum passive stun in seconds , otherwise a good tip for adcs u wanted to try is
Xayah similar to lucian get a rakan onboard or you play at 80 percent while every other adc plays at 100 percent.
Vayne used to be the mastery of mastery of adcs now that kaisa exists and mobility is at an alltime high vayne kinda performs like most normal adcs and not like the old 3 item 1v9 machine. Senna is pretty strong try fasting with a sett or tahm kench adc or a mage bot its brutal.
Otherwise jhin is a fun easy to get in adc thats very rewarding to master and pairs well with most supports, coming from a pure support main XD
Tommy TEOP | June 13, 2021 10:01am
Yeah i really like lucian but he feels useless after 25min, and i'm too noob at adc to play aggressive
ADC is really a hard role to understand, limits are so low, farm require to know numbers and to trust ur support
But i still enjoy the gameplay, i will continue this painful road x)
I really like vayne too, her scaling is amazing ! Jhin is a beast i can't beat any
I'm still looking for a good ADC, thanks for ur advices !
TheImmortalEye (15) | June 14, 2021 12:24am
np hope you find your perfect fit, as a support myself i can tell from one side mainly,
but yeah in general Samira, Tristana, Lucian, vayne and ezreal are good not because of how op you are but because they have ways to selfpeel, sadly you cant trust your support often especially in low elo wad you get will be no support item lux so its important to selfpeel adn selfengage, which is sadly why xayah is so weak as she needs a specific support to reach maximum potential ( rakan or funny enough sett kinda works). Others are good and jhin is a perfect beginner adc as he feels more like an ad mage than autoattacker, Ashe is great but booring as tar to play. Most of the others are in b tier and can be played well but need peel like jinx,Kog maw, Kaisa.

btw if you wanna go offbrand other hidden gems are Kindred adc is like a safer vayne but weaker dmg and lategame but actually better than people expect, Graves adc rocks with a engage support and swain, veigar and sera terrorise lower elos. Otherwise since you also like assasins going pyke as support might be your style.

look for wad you want and pick your favourite gl on the rift ;).
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SaltCat (19) | June 3, 2021 4:35am
Its a nice list what can i say! ;D, i also want kda all out evelynn so badddddddddddddddddddddd ahhhhhhh.... also for qiyana i want prestige true damage but its sadly not going to happen ;(
Tommy TEOP | June 5, 2021 2:46pm
Oh that's difficult to get but LOL is a game where we all make huge efforts so why not trying to get that skin ? Evelynn KDA is my favorite too and I play her unlike others KDA characters x)
Luquinha (2) | May 13, 2021 4:16am
Pantheon is also my loved one and my main, but recently I have been playing a lot of Leona and it is so fun when you have a competent ADC because you just CC the enemy for so much time and tank a lot while the ADC ends them. So basically if you have someone that deals damage by your side you can just go around killing everyone. So i would recommend giving a shot if you like playing support and tank.

Edit: spelling
Tommy TEOP | May 18, 2021 2:22am
Oh yes leona seems great in team but is she worth it solo ? The problem is that i soloq and having a good adc at my level is very rare.
I'll try her when i reach a greater level lol
Luquinha (2) | May 18, 2021 9:59am
Yeah the ADC question is really good but you can roam mid or just play passively, I know she is all in, but if you see that it won't work just peel for him and do plays only when you have a 99% guaranteed kill.
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TheImmortalEye (15) | May 10, 2021 8:26am
i see u like new panth my man XD.
where did you think on playing taliyah, depending on ur elo shes below average jungle, absolutely terrible mid as assasins are strong and quite good as a cheesy support or adc with a cc champ, this comes from a 170 k taliyah lv 7
Tommy TEOP | May 10, 2021 1:12pm
Oh that's so sweet ! I never thought i would have advices. Thanks you !
I will remember it, she seems so fun but so far away from my level. I hope she will get buffs !
And pantheon is so good everywhere it's the reason i even play the game
TheImmortalEye (15) | May 11, 2021 12:39am
Hi thx for the reply, i love pantheon too ive played him mostly support before he get demoted from there, Taliyah is my main as i love her lore and unique playstyle but idk if ur willing to play a champ that basicly stumbles while everybody else runs ur list is very accurate there. like azir shes very good in pro play so shes gutted for soloqeue and her weaknesses are long ( low range, manahungry with combo needing 350 mana, early dependent, low cc if you miss w ur dead and w is the hardest skillshot to learn to use often and still impossible to hit an irelia effectively often, squishy...
Her pros are great roaming shes a fast little girl and ok oneshot aswell as dps with q on 2 s cd, she also ganks well as her ult is similar to panth she works well in a coordinated team who can protect and help her so i can clash for example, if you wanna give her a try dont be sad to lose the first 50 games with sadly is normal.

i just wanted to maybe give advice from one player to another, whats your favourite role , im a support main so as that i can give u the tipp from the list zilean and alistat are the most consistent, getting changed rarely and allowing much skillful play, Karma depends very much on how strong she is in other roles and gets nerfed often so u will feel her change every few weeks from weak to strong back to weaker , she falls of at 25 m to where all u do now is r empowered shield and stay alive. Pyke is a champ is personally dislike but he can be very good he depends on how good u are as an assasin and he falls into a bottomless hole of uselessness at 30 min so finish fast, remember many people counter him i play neeko and rell and he wont have a great time. Zyra is great im lv 6 on her if youre below dia and u know how to stay safe. seing ur playstyle is relatively aggressive have you thought about trying out the following champs: Rell is more fun leona, tristana as an adc is quite bombastic and pairs well with ur go in attitude with pantheon she does the same, nautilus is better pyke and allows u to carry low elo games as his hook is the easiest to land,in mid sylas also would complement ur go in brawling and he can snowball Jungle give nunu and warwick a try , strong ganks and easy fun kits full of skill expression (warwick can lv 2 drake for example). these are a few i would ad to your ideas ;)
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