Yeah sett is really annoying, he is everywhere now, his engages are so powerfull especially when you're a weak jungler or an adc lol
Lux is annoying because her ult is constantly open in mid and late
If i'm in a lane against a lux and a jhin for example, stuns are permanent
I hated morgana for her 2.25 sec root but lux as slow, roots... it's so painfull to lane agaisnt lol
But if she has no abilities or no mana i can just run at her and there's nothing left to protect her
If you know how to play jungle, try Lillia. (I personally never jungle, but when I get Lillia in ARAM, I always end up with 2 quadra kills and a score like 22/2/15).
in your idea list imo the most fun champs are : diana, senna, varus, neeko, rakan, galio. diana's damage to monster is ridiculous, after 1/2 completed items u basically can 1 shot camps, I usually have more that 10/cs per min with her in jg which is just insane for a jungler
if you have problems vs sett its mostly important to know that like garen or darius his dmg is gated by an ability his w shield and true damage are slow and u should get to the left or right to suffer way less or no damage then kite or fight him, he cant cc you except by pulling or ulting and he has to just run to you like most juggernauts making him slow and clunky and his w is on 10 s cd to max 6 s lategame, his q is autoenhance and has basicly no cd but also isnt that dangerous, his pull is 15 to 6s and since u max it dead last its mostly 15s.
lux is a game of dodge the skillshot, try randomly going left or right so she misses then engage, the others are admittingly really hard especially in low elo where i am XD
Yeah sett is really annoying, he is everywhere now, his engages are so powerfull especially when you're a weak jungler or an adc lol
Lux is annoying because her ult is constantly open in mid and late
If i'm in a lane against a lux and a jhin for example, stuns are permanent
I hated morgana for her 2.25 sec root but lux as slow, roots... it's so painfull to lane agaisnt lol
But if she has no abilities or no mana i can just run at her and there's nothing left to protect her
yeah, engaging with a gank onto a good sett is like a mordekaiser, its mostly pointless XD. i describe him as the baby of VI and darius, shares similar strenghts and weaknesses , he can only run at people and is generally slow in abilities and speed but like vi he isnt great at bursting down more than 1 or 2 ( if ur entire team stands in sett w thats their undoing XD) and can be deleted faster than a true tank.he prob gets nerfed soon anyway and honestly his kit itself is fair ( as fair as all juggernauts can be)
lucian bot isnt in the greatest spot now dont get me wrong not bad but u should try to get a braum support onboard as he negates lucians pokeability and they can do a braum passive stun in seconds , otherwise a good tip for adcs u wanted to try is
Xayah similar to lucian get a rakan onboard or you play at 80 percent while every other adc plays at 100 percent.
Vayne used to be the mastery of mastery of adcs now that kaisa exists and mobility is at an alltime high vayne kinda performs like most normal adcs and not like the old 3 item 1v9 machine. Senna is pretty strong try fasting with a sett or tahm kench adc or a mage bot its brutal.
Otherwise jhin is a fun easy to get in adc thats very rewarding to master and pairs well with most supports, coming from a pure support main XD
Yeah i really like lucian but he feels useless after 25min, and i'm too noob at adc to play aggressive
ADC is really a hard role to understand, limits are so low, farm require to know numbers and to trust ur support
But i still enjoy the gameplay, i will continue this painful road x)
I really like vayne too, her scaling is amazing ! Jhin is a beast i can't beat any
I'm still looking for a good ADC, thanks for ur advices !
np hope you find your perfect fit, as a support myself i can tell from one side mainly,
but yeah in general Samira, Tristana, Lucian, vayne and ezreal are good not because of how op you are but because they have ways to selfpeel, sadly you cant trust your support often especially in low elo wad you get will be no support item lux so its important to selfpeel adn selfengage, which is sadly why xayah is so weak as she needs a specific support to reach maximum potential ( rakan or funny enough sett kinda works). Others are good and jhin is a perfect beginner adc as he feels more like an ad mage than autoattacker, Ashe is great but booring as tar to play. Most of the others are in b tier and can be played well but need peel like jinx,Kog maw, Kaisa.
btw if you wanna go offbrand other hidden gems are Kindred adc is like a safer vayne but weaker dmg and lategame but actually better than people expect, Graves adc rocks with a engage support and swain, veigar and sera terrorise lower elos. Otherwise since you also like assasins going pyke as support might be your style.
look for wad you want and pick your favourite gl on the rift ;).
You pointed a very intersting part, as an adc i can't place myself in fights if i can't get peel
Sadly in low elo there are lots of support that take kills and forgot the adc lol
But in reality it help me to understand the role and get better, as a jungle i hope for a good mid but i can still play without, it's the same here
For now in ranked i will play jungle and if one day i reach higher elo i could play adc too
u talk about the dreaded mage supports right XD, if you want an adc that is selfsustaining and doesnt require any help from your 5 2 cs stealing brand, its samira , kaisa or tristana, those dont need or care for peel since u can selfpeel easily but theire harder to master
Its a nice list what can i say! ;D, i also want kda all out evelynn so badddddddddddddddddddddd ahhhhhhh.... also for qiyana i want prestige true damage but its sadly not going to happen ;(
Oh that's difficult to get but LOL is a game where we all make huge efforts so why not trying to get that skin ? Evelynn KDA is my favorite too and I play her unlike others KDA characters x)
Pantheon is also my loved one and my main, but recently I have been playing a lot of Leona and it is so fun when you have a competent ADC because you just CC the enemy for so much time and tank a lot while the ADC ends them. So basically if you have someone that deals damage by your side you can just go around killing everyone. So i would recommend giving a shot if you like playing support and tank.
Oh yes leona seems great in team but is she worth it solo ? The problem is that i soloq and having a good adc at my level is very rare.
I'll try her when i reach a greater level lol
Yeah the ADC question is really good but you can roam mid or just play passively, I know she is all in, but if you see that it won't work just peel for him and do plays only when you have a 99% guaranteed kill.
In ranked ADC are not that bad actually, even if he doesn't get kills i just ask him to stay safe and not feed and yeah it works most of the time. But botlane is hard to climb from in soloq
Leona is definitely coming to my mind lately so i will try !
Leona is both easy and broken. Also of your adc is troll you dont really need him to play Leona because her basic combo is availiabe at level 2 already so from there on you can already help whoever is fed on your team.
i see u like new panth my man XD.
where did you think on playing taliyah, depending on ur elo shes below average jungle, absolutely terrible mid as assasins are strong and quite good as a cheesy support or adc with a cc champ, this comes from a 170 k taliyah lv 7
Oh that's so sweet ! I never thought i would have advices. Thanks you !
I will remember it, she seems so fun but so far away from my level. I hope she will get buffs !
And pantheon is so good everywhere it's the reason i even play the game
Hi thx for the reply, i love pantheon too ive played him mostly support before he get demoted from there, Taliyah is my main as i love her lore and unique playstyle but idk if ur willing to play a champ that basicly stumbles while everybody else runs ur list is very accurate there. like azir shes very good in pro play so shes gutted for soloqeue and her weaknesses are long ( low range, manahungry with combo needing 350 mana, early dependent, low cc if you miss w ur dead and w is the hardest skillshot to learn to use often and still impossible to hit an irelia effectively often, squishy...
Her pros are great roaming shes a fast little girl and ok oneshot aswell as dps with q on 2 s cd, she also ganks well as her ult is similar to panth she works well in a coordinated team who can protect and help her so i can clash for example, if you wanna give her a try dont be sad to lose the first 50 games with her...it sadly is normal.
i just wanted to maybe give advice from one player to another, whats your favourite role , im a support main so as that i can give u the tipp from the list zilean and alistat are the most consistent, getting changed rarely and allowing much skillful play, Karma depends very much on how strong she is in other roles and gets nerfed often so u will feel her change every few weeks from weak to strong back to weaker , she falls of at 25 m to where all u do now is r empowered shield and stay alive. Pyke is a champ is personally dislike but he can be very good he depends on how good u are as an assasin and he falls into a bottomless hole of uselessness at 30 min so finish fast, remember many people counter him i play neeko and rell and he wont have a great time. Zyra is great im lv 6 on her if youre below dia and u know how to stay safe. seing ur playstyle is relatively aggressive have you thought about trying out the following champs: Rell is more fun leona, tristana as an adc is quite bombastic and pairs well with ur go in attitude with pantheon she does the same, nautilus is better pyke and allows u to carry low elo games as his hook is the easiest to land,in mid sylas also would complement ur go in brawling and he can snowball hard.in Jungle give nunu and warwick a try , strong ganks and easy fun kits full of skill expression (warwick can lv 2 drake for example). these are a few i would ad to your ideas ;)
Oh taliyah seems to have everythings to suffer, that's cool x) I love gank champions like hecarim and nunu so yeah i thought taliyah could be great.
Thank again for your advices, i'll wait a bit before playing her or maybe with some friends, aty least not in soloq.
I love support yeah but jungle is my favorite because you really have an impact and even if a lane lose you can destroy another one ! I love karma but you're right it's sadly not effective enough.I love the possibilities you give me, i can't place Alistar combos for now i keep pushing enemies away lol
Zyra is my main support, so much safe places, so much poke, it's just so peaceful
I have warwick and i wanted to try him a bit more actually ! Nautilus was in my head actually
Is Rell easy to understand ?
And for pyke i know everybody hate him, but he has everything in his kit and is squish enough to be punished for bad placements
Rell is quite easy but mastering is hard, remember with her when u go in theres no way out ur movement speed will all be gone so decisionmaking is key but she can outfight most supports and counters leona and pyke hard. Pykes problem is he basicly only has dmg and cc and can be countered in champselect, and unlike other assasins u wont have 3000 hp like rengar lategame as he cant get health so he falls of at 30 minutes and never recovers, he can hypercarry as a support which is nice u can go 11 0 1 and ur adc will not be ( that) mad but thats also why he cant ever be a good support as everyone else suffers.dont get me wrong in low elo hes a beast go for it and make them regret their live choices. ill help you if you do want to play him go q first and max it, dont use it like thresh though ur combo at lv 2 is e through their adc then q when lowrange or when they run, if you do hit a q e right through and run forward now spam autoattack , at lv its w into e into q into r then win and bm your mastery and tilt them to surrender before 30 min hits and they will defeat you. never forget ur dropoff i had many pykes start 5 0 0 vs my neeko support then i reached 30 min and got them 6 11 5. lock him in with aggro adcs like draven or samira as an ezreal will abandon you often trust me XD
if your favourite role is jungle give nautilus a chance , remember his hook is magnetic so it connects very easily unlike pykes or threshs, but ur a full tank dmg is only at 2 items a thing. nunu is great hes a gank and campchamp keep harassing lanes till their dead. Warwick was in my head as hes rly good, easy to pick up hard to master and outdamages and outtanks most others. if ur looking for junglers like hecarim and udyr that dont get nerfed often try warwick, Vi, kayn red form,Zac and volibear. they have similar strenghts but arent metapawns so like heca who was the best and now is just an engage tank. maybe u like one of these
Oh I see now for Pyke, at least he have good escapes but yeah he get's one shot by tanks at 30 lol
Ezrael players... Yeah I saw that. I will look for Nautilus but he looks very slow
Ah you said Zac ! A lot of people said that i could like Zac gameplay, I'll put it in my list too. And yes Heca is super fun but dies so quickly... And in lon games he falls in utility, at least he can steal drakes and baron !
I always ban Kayn so I should take a look on it with Shaco and Volibear, Vi seems intersting but there's a lot to master lol
the problem with hecarim is hes a slave to the meta , so if you play him now hes very weak but in a few months he will be the best jng for a few months again its an endless cicle.
I just wanted to give you the honest opinion why pyke does have a low winrate, hes an assasin bot so he can win hard and be unbeatable or encounter a good support player who picks the right champ like morgana,leona,nautilus and become useless as his cc requires him to go in which he will do at if he misses.
Zac would fit u well buddy like panth he engages , holds in place and attracts aggro, Zac can also steal drake better than even heca u need to e jump and smite while you fly its so funny, Volibear also he q runs in and ult burst into a fight brawling it out. Vi isnt hard but you need to flank through the jng and ult the adc or carry champ then brawl or run.
shaco is really different but very similar to pyke, hes very very strong early BUT easy to counter if you know wad he does, hes a mindgame where you need to outsmart ur enemy before 25 min hits, if 25 min hits you will lose im very sorry but it almost always does as ur an assasin with no dashes that doesnt have reliable escape or defence, with him start red clear all camps then stalk and destroy a single lane so hard that the game is won, if jng follows u rotate to a different lane.
Thanks for Pyke i understand his drawback, yeah morgana and lux are always blocking me, with nunu too
Ok so Zac looks like a very reliable tank and i like that
Hmm that's why all shaco do that, in low elo we're so lost when he come in combat x)
XD i play neeko as my lv 7 and she does the same cant win by just playing as the stats of her and shaco are weak and fall off need to tilt and mindgame and anchieve victory , im glad you tried the champs i thought theyd fit you ;)
Yeah i see she need items so kills or cs but as support all that are forbiden by the ADC pings... I heard that she could be played AD and even crit and i found it beautiful
Lux is annoying because her ult is constantly open in mid and late
If i'm in a lane against a lux and a jhin for example, stuns are permanent
I hated morgana for her 2.25 sec root but lux as slow, roots... it's so painfull to lane agaisnt lol
But if she has no abilities or no mana i can just run at her and there's nothing left to protect her
Have fun!
lux is a game of dodge the skillshot, try randomly going left or right so she misses then engage, the others are admittingly really hard especially in low elo where i am XD
Lux is annoying because her ult is constantly open in mid and late
If i'm in a lane against a lux and a jhin for example, stuns are permanent
I hated morgana for her 2.25 sec root but lux as slow, roots... it's so painfull to lane agaisnt lol
But if she has no abilities or no mana i can just run at her and there's nothing left to protect her
Xayah similar to lucian get a rakan onboard or you play at 80 percent while every other adc plays at 100 percent.
Vayne used to be the mastery of mastery of adcs now that kaisa exists and mobility is at an alltime high vayne kinda performs like most normal adcs and not like the old 3 item 1v9 machine. Senna is pretty strong try fasting with a sett or tahm kench adc or a mage bot its brutal.
Otherwise jhin is a fun easy to get in adc thats very rewarding to master and pairs well with most supports, coming from a pure support main XD
ADC is really a hard role to understand, limits are so low, farm require to know numbers and to trust ur support
But i still enjoy the gameplay, i will continue this painful road x)
I really like vayne too, her scaling is amazing ! Jhin is a beast i can't beat any
I'm still looking for a good ADC, thanks for ur advices !
but yeah in general Samira, Tristana, Lucian, vayne and ezreal are good not because of how op you are but because they have ways to selfpeel, sadly you cant trust your support often especially in low elo wad you get will be no support item lux so its important to selfpeel adn selfengage, which is sadly why xayah is so weak as she needs a specific support to reach maximum potential ( rakan or funny enough sett kinda works). Others are good and jhin is a perfect beginner adc as he feels more like an ad mage than autoattacker, Ashe is great but booring as tar to play. Most of the others are in b tier and can be played well but need peel like jinx,Kog maw, Kaisa.
btw if you wanna go offbrand other hidden gems are Kindred adc is like a safer vayne but weaker dmg and lategame but actually better than people expect, Graves adc rocks with a engage support and swain, veigar and sera terrorise lower elos. Otherwise since you also like assasins going pyke as support might be your style.
look for wad you want and pick your favourite gl on the rift ;).
Sadly in low elo there are lots of support that take kills and forgot the adc lol
But in reality it help me to understand the role and get better, as a jungle i hope for a good mid but i can still play without, it's the same here
For now in ranked i will play jungle and if one day i reach higher elo i could play adc too
Edit: spelling
I'll try her when i reach a greater level lol
Leona is definitely coming to my mind lately so i will try !
where did you think on playing taliyah, depending on ur elo shes below average jungle, absolutely terrible mid as assasins are strong and quite good as a cheesy support or adc with a cc champ, this comes from a 170 k taliyah lv 7
I will remember it, she seems so fun but so far away from my level. I hope she will get buffs !
And pantheon is so good everywhere it's the reason i even play the game
Her pros are great roaming shes a fast little girl and ok oneshot aswell as dps with q on 2 s cd, she also ganks well as her ult is similar to panth she works well in a coordinated team who can protect and help her so i can clash for example, if you wanna give her a try dont be sad to lose the first 50 games with her...it sadly is normal.
i just wanted to maybe give advice from one player to another, whats your favourite role , im a support main so as that i can give u the tipp from the list zilean and alistat are the most consistent, getting changed rarely and allowing much skillful play, Karma depends very much on how strong she is in other roles and gets nerfed often so u will feel her change every few weeks from weak to strong back to weaker , she falls of at 25 m to where all u do now is r empowered shield and stay alive. Pyke is a champ is personally dislike but he can be very good he depends on how good u are as an assasin and he falls into a bottomless hole of uselessness at 30 min so finish fast, remember many people counter him i play neeko and rell and he wont have a great time. Zyra is great im lv 6 on her if youre below dia and u know how to stay safe. seing ur playstyle is relatively aggressive have you thought about trying out the following champs: Rell is more fun leona, tristana as an adc is quite bombastic and pairs well with ur go in attitude with pantheon she does the same, nautilus is better pyke and allows u to carry low elo games as his hook is the easiest to land,in mid sylas also would complement ur go in brawling and he can snowball hard.in Jungle give nunu and warwick a try , strong ganks and easy fun kits full of skill expression (warwick can lv 2 drake for example). these are a few i would ad to your ideas ;)
Thank again for your advices, i'll wait a bit before playing her or maybe with some friends, aty least not in soloq.
I love support yeah but jungle is my favorite because you really have an impact and even if a lane lose you can destroy another one ! I love karma but you're right it's sadly not effective enough.I love the possibilities you give me, i can't place Alistar combos for now i keep pushing enemies away lol
Zyra is my main support, so much safe places, so much poke, it's just so peaceful
I have warwick and i wanted to try him a bit more actually ! Nautilus was in my head actually
Is Rell easy to understand ?
And for pyke i know everybody hate him, but he has everything in his kit and is squish enough to be punished for bad placements
if your favourite role is jungle give nautilus a chance , remember his hook is magnetic so it connects very easily unlike pykes or threshs, but ur a full tank dmg is only at 2 items a thing. nunu is great hes a gank and campchamp keep harassing lanes till their dead. Warwick was in my head as hes rly good, easy to pick up hard to master and outdamages and outtanks most others. if ur looking for junglers like hecarim and udyr that dont get nerfed often try warwick, Vi, kayn red form,Zac and volibear. they have similar strenghts but arent metapawns so like heca who was the best and now is just an engage tank. maybe u like one of these
Ezrael players... Yeah I saw that. I will look for Nautilus but he looks very slow
Ah you said Zac ! A lot of people said that i could like Zac gameplay, I'll put it in my list too. And yes Heca is super fun but dies so quickly... And in lon games he falls in utility, at least he can steal drakes and baron !
I always ban Kayn so I should take a look on it with Shaco and Volibear, Vi seems intersting but there's a lot to master lol
I just wanted to give you the honest opinion why pyke does have a low winrate, hes an assasin bot so he can win hard and be unbeatable or encounter a good support player who picks the right champ like morgana,leona,nautilus and become useless as his cc requires him to go in which he will do at if he misses.
Zac would fit u well buddy like panth he engages , holds in place and attracts aggro, Zac can also steal drake better than even heca u need to e jump and smite while you fly its so funny, Volibear also he q runs in and ult burst into a fight brawling it out. Vi isnt hard but you need to flank through the jng and ult the adc or carry champ then brawl or run.
shaco is really different but very similar to pyke, hes very very strong early BUT easy to counter if you know wad he does, hes a mindgame where you need to outsmart ur enemy before 25 min hits, if 25 min hits you will lose im very sorry but it almost always does as ur an assasin with no dashes that doesnt have reliable escape or defence, with him start red clear all camps then stalk and destroy a single lane so hard that the game is won, if jng follows u rotate to a different lane.
Ok so Zac looks like a very reliable tank and i like that
Hmm that's why all shaco do that, in low elo we're so lost when he come in combat x)