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Bored again so I made another quick tier list.
Disclaimer: I'm taking into account both solo queue and competitive play as well as how risky/situational a pick is. In other words some of the tier 2 picks are situationally stronger than tier 1s and so on. Most ADC picks are very close in strength right now, there's only a few clear outliers - in general there's very little difference between the lower tier 2 picks and the higher tier 3 picks, so please don't take the exact positioning too seriously. Which makes me wonder why I'm even bothering to make this, but fk it.
Tier 1 (Great):
Lucian, Caitlyn
Tier 2 (Good): Jinx, Ezreal, Twitch, Draven, Sivir
Tier 3 (Average): Graves, Corki, Vayne, Kog'Maw, Varus, Miss Fortune, Tristana, Ashe
Tier 4 (Poo): Quinn, Urgot
Obviously just my current scrublord opinion and stuff.
Tem stuff:
In other news my tem "Our Mains Are Challenger" took part in the community cup for the first time in many months and the first time since replacing Mowen with Joxuu.
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We won three games, which is the furthest we've gotten so far. The first two games were relatively one-sided because there was quite a sizeable skill gap (Taric was level 21 without any runes, for example). We were able to abuse early-picked short range ADCs with two Caitlyn counterpicks and our Yasuo wombo combo worked well. The third game was the closest of the bunch. Although we were winning lanes Vi was able to make some good plays in bot lane combined with a lot of Nidalee roam. It was difficult to engage for a long time because of the team compositions and the poke/waveclear was an issue, but once we finally found some teamfights we were able to win them quite easily.
In the fourth game we played against the eventual tournament winners - four challenger players and one diamond 1 player, also challenger ranked in 5v5. It quickly became apparant that we were vastly outclassed in terms of skill as all of our lanes fell quite far behind very early on. It felt like they were playing a whole different game to us and I was pretty much reduced to desperately trying to avoid dying without falling too far behind in farm as I couldn't hit or dodge a single skillshot. They pushed relentlessly and although GMD was able to pick up some kills somehow - I think mostly because they stopped playing 100% seriously - we ended up helplessly watching our base die before I could even pick up a single item. A little bit disappointing, but not as bad as it could have been given the huge difference in skill level.
We also reached gold II in 5v5 placements, so all in all things are working out pretty good right now. I still miss having Mowen around, but Joxuu is playing well and doing a great job of carrying my heavy ***.
Disclaimer: I'm taking into account both solo queue and competitive play as well as how risky/situational a pick is. In other words some of the tier 2 picks are situationally stronger than tier 1s and so on. Most ADC picks are very close in strength right now, there's only a few clear outliers - in general there's very little difference between the lower tier 2 picks and the higher tier 3 picks, so please don't take the exact positioning too seriously. Which makes me wonder why I'm even bothering to make this, but fk it.
Tier 1 (Great):
Lucian, CaitlynTier 2 (Good):
Jinx, Ezreal, Twitch, Draven, SivirTier 3 (Average):
Graves, Corki, Vayne, Kog'Maw, Varus, Miss Fortune, Tristana, AsheTier 4 (Poo):
Quinn, UrgotObviously just my current scrublord opinion and stuff.
Tem stuff:
In other news my tem "Our Mains Are Challenger" took part in the community cup for the first time in many months and the first time since replacing Mowen with Joxuu.
ScreenshotsWe won three games, which is the furthest we've gotten so far. The first two games were relatively one-sided because there was quite a sizeable skill gap (Taric was level 21 without any runes, for example). We were able to abuse early-picked short range ADCs with two Caitlyn counterpicks and our Yasuo wombo combo worked well. The third game was the closest of the bunch. Although we were winning lanes Vi was able to make some good plays in bot lane combined with a lot of Nidalee roam. It was difficult to engage for a long time because of the team compositions and the poke/waveclear was an issue, but once we finally found some teamfights we were able to win them quite easily.
In the fourth game we played against the eventual tournament winners - four challenger players and one diamond 1 player, also challenger ranked in 5v5. It quickly became apparant that we were vastly outclassed in terms of skill as all of our lanes fell quite far behind very early on. It felt like they were playing a whole different game to us and I was pretty much reduced to desperately trying to avoid dying without falling too far behind in farm as I couldn't hit or dodge a single skillshot. They pushed relentlessly and although GMD was able to pick up some kills somehow - I think mostly because they stopped playing 100% seriously - we ended up helplessly watching our base die before I could even pick up a single item. A little bit disappointing, but not as bad as it could have been given the huge difference in skill level.
We also reached gold II in 5v5 placements, so all in all things are working out pretty good right now. I still miss having Mowen around, but Joxuu is playing well and doing a great job of carrying my heavy ***.
How is her laning phase ****py? ._.
Yes, her perma pushing comes in very handy against some of the more unfavourable matchups (
Her 2v2 all in is also pretty damn good, especially if she manages to block some damage/CC with
obviously the supports have a big influence on the outcome of 2v2's so it also depends on that but lets forget about that for a second, shall we *cough*
QFT
fear my Vel'Koz support mwehehehehe
Those are my thoughts on it anyway.
Yes, her perma pushing comes in very handy against some of the more unfavourable matchups (
Her 2v2 all in is also pretty damn good, especially if she manages to block some damage/CC with
obviously the supports have a big influence on the outcome of 2v2's so it also depends on that but lets forget about that for a second, shall we *cough*
I still think
I feel like the mana nerfs on W really screwed over her perma pushing and waveclear abilities, which was the only saving grace of her otherwise ****py laning phase. Her ult's still OP as fk but I don't think it's enough to make up for her losing matchups against almost everything anymore. Like Wayne said I initially had her in t3, I only moved her into 2 cuz everyone yelled at me and I thought about it more.
The order within the tiers does matter somewhat but it's not really supposed to be definitive or anything. Most of the nearby champions are too close to call.
(also I think tier 2 is fine, personally, though if the actual order of the champions matter then I'd probably put her somewhere near the front)
Wat?! Obviously I am god and you guys are scrubs. Back hurts.
these trashtalking scrubs
And I just first timed Draven in a ranked game... I won. Tho I went 1-3 in lane, I took 80% of enemy cait's HP with 1 hit lol
Shouldn't Draven be in Tier for soloQ?
He is the one who can snowball the hardest and come back the hardest. Just what you need for soloQ.
That's true but I feel like he's much more lacklustre in competitive, so his position is a compromise between the two. You also have to be a mechanical god to play a really good Draven and falling too far behind or even small mechanical mistakes can really screw you over.