Views: 638 Some thoughts about Supports in S4
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So i heard about the upcoming vision and game flow changes, which really affect supports.
As far as the thing with vision goes, i think it's fair. Now teams and supports must be really carefull on how they want to use their wards and all participate in this. That will allow supports to save more gold for big items. As a sequence they will be more effective late game, given of course the fact that the whole team places wards and uses trinkets.
The second thing is that on supports AP will not only affect the damage/healing/shield done but also the ultility of the ability. This will probably make supports stronger late game and it is possible that buying items like Shard of True Ice or Twin Shadows(generally every item with a supportish aura/active/passive and AP). The point is, how does Riot know which champs are supports. People always tended to use unconvential champions for any role, will champions like Fiddlesticks or Annie get this advantage as well? If not, doesn't this mean that the champion pool for supports becomes smaller?(which is something i don't think Riot wants). And what about supports that can play mid, top or jungle as well( i.e. Lulu, Taric, Janna)? Will they get the bonuses in the non- supports role ,too?
As far as the thing with vision goes, i think it's fair. Now teams and supports must be really carefull on how they want to use their wards and all participate in this. That will allow supports to save more gold for big items. As a sequence they will be more effective late game, given of course the fact that the whole team places wards and uses trinkets.
The second thing is that on supports AP will not only affect the damage/healing/shield done but also the ultility of the ability. This will probably make supports stronger late game and it is possible that buying items like Shard of True Ice or Twin Shadows(generally every item with a supportish aura/active/passive and AP). The point is, how does Riot know which champs are supports. People always tended to use unconvential champions for any role, will champions like Fiddlesticks or Annie get this advantage as well? If not, doesn't this mean that the champion pool for supports becomes smaller?(which is something i don't think Riot wants). And what about supports that can play mid, top or jungle as well( i.e. Lulu, Taric, Janna)? Will they get the bonuses in the non- supports role ,too?
My guess would be - no. As you said yourself - these changes are about supports. So if you don't play a support role with those champions, I guess you won't get the bonus.
But I personally don't even see the point in playing champs like Annie or Fiddlesticks as supports. They have offensive abilities that were made to kill, not to support. And with enough kills, you should have enough money for your end-game gear. Therefore no need for any bonuses. Just plain skill.
Meanwhile champs like Soraka, Alistar, Sona... they don't do much of a damage, therefore are good for supporting, 'cause there is very small chance of getting a kill, if played properly. So they need these changes to be able to help supporting your team towards victory. ;)
Fiddlesticks and Annie were both used in the LCS and fiddle more than once for sure.
There are still supports that can be used in other roles. I can't forget of that 4 support+ Vayne Taipei assasins game, where they ran Lulu top, Janna mid, Nunu & Willump jungle and Taric support.
I guess I won't really know for sure till eh... few weeks in but I'm convinced that there will still only be one, maybe two, people warding. Especially late game.
I mean if you think about it nobody is gonna have a special slot to spare for wards. They'll probably get the trinket ward but that won't be enough vision for late game or it will have to suffice but it should be more. If they don't give everyone an extra slot for wards no one is gonna get them mid late game. "Hmmm should I get a GA or wards?... probably wards, yeah"
legitible thought but if it is so, this will mean that Riot will have failed I guess. No wards will mean less map control. If it ends up like this, trap teamfihgts must become really popular at least in the beginning of the next season and Clairvoyance might start being used slightly more as a counter for this.
I mean if you think about it nobody is gonna have a special slot to spare for wards. They'll probably get the trinket ward but that won't be enough vision for late game or it will have to suffice but it should be more. If they don't give everyone an extra slot for wards no one is gonna get them mid late game. "Hmmm should I get a GA or wards?... probably wards, yeah"
But I personally don't even see the point in playing champs like Annie or Fiddlesticks as supports. They have offensive abilities that were made to kill, not to support. And with enough kills, you should have enough money for your end-game gear. Therefore no need for any bonuses. Just plain skill.
Meanwhile champs like Soraka, Alistar, Sona... they don't do much of a damage, therefore are good for supporting, 'cause there is very small chance of getting a kill, if played properly. So they need these changes to be able to help supporting your team towards victory. ;)