Fav top lane champion and why?

[quote=Electro522]Also, at the [[frozen heart]] statement, it isnt the mana from Iceborn or Tri Force Im going for, its [[sheen]]'s passive. Its passive puts another 100 damage or so onto your q, making it hurt that much more.[/quote]

[quote=TotemTiki][quote=NicknameMy] I didn't try out [[rammus]] jungle as AP yet, because [[Rammus]] jungle doesn't get enough gold to really get that items going. Only at top lane you can get enough gold for that (or mid, but [[rammus]] is rather meh against ranged). I also got a video for you. [[Ravenous Hydra]], hmm, [[garen]] should actually get only 1 offensive item and that is [[the black cleaver]], because the synergy for him with it and for your team is epic. But both combined could work out aswell, you then have to get [[ravenous hydra]] instead of [[warmog's armor]]. Best thing about it is the early [[vampiric scepter]], which really helps [[garen]] as I know myself that [[garen]] sometimes struggle with lane sustain. Test it out and tell me how it worked :D. [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGDQOOx--eY] [/quote] Geez that video.[/quote]

[quote=TotemTiki][quote=GrandmasterD] [[Zed]] Build: [icon=doran's blade] -> [icon=ravenous hydra] -> [icon=last whisper] -> [icon=the brutalizer] masteries: classic 21/9/0 runes: 9x[icon=greater mark of armor penetration] 8x[icon=greater seal of energy regeneration] 1x[icon=greater seal of health] 9x[icon=greater glyph of scaling cooldown reduction] 1x[icon=greater quintessence of armor penetration] 2x[icon=greater quintessence of armor] [[Zed]] is a strong split-pusher and scales really well to late-game. He's safe and can win a lot of matchups. [[Zed]] can determine the pacing in any matchup and even drag things out in unfavourable matchups due to his range. [/quote] Unorthodox, but legit. So do you rush the hydra, because I have seen many [[Zed]]'s rush a [[Blade of the Ruined King]]? Do you think that applies, or is it unneeded?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]From what I've learned from GMD, the recent nerf to the active make Blade of the Ruined King inferior to Ravenous Hydra on Zed.[/quote]

[quote=TotemTiki][quote=Electro522] Also, at the [[frozen heart]] statement, it isnt the mana from Iceborn or Tri Force Im going for, its [[sheen]]'s passive. Its passive puts another 100 damage or so onto your q, making it hurt that much more. [/quote] So can you say that upgrading the [[Sheen]] is an option when you are ahead?[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Electro522] Also, at the [[frozen heart]] statement, it isnt the mana from Iceborn or Tri Force Im going for, its [[sheen]]'s passive. Its passive puts another 100 damage or so onto your q, making it hurt that much more. [/quote] [[Sheen]] is 1250 gold for no CDR, nor defensive stats. Competent top laners will not let you get away with that.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=TotemTiki] [quote=GrandmasterD] [[Zed]] Build: [icon=doran's blade] -> [icon=ravenous hydra] -> [icon=last whisper] -> [icon=the brutalizer] masteries: classic 21/9/0 runes: 9x[icon=greater mark of armor penetration] 8x[icon=greater seal of energy regeneration] 1x[icon=greater seal of health] 9x[icon=greater glyph of scaling cooldown reduction] 1x[icon=greater quintessence of armor penetration] 2x[icon=greater quintessence of armor] [[Zed]] is a strong split-pusher and scales really well to late-game. He's safe and can win a lot of matchups. [[Zed]] can determine the pacing in any matchup and even drag things out in unfavourable matchups due to his range. [/quote] Unorthodox, but legit. So do you rush the hydra, because I have seen many [[Zed]]'s rush a [[Blade of the Ruined King]]? Do you think that applies, or is it unneeded? [/quote] BotRK got its active nerfed again. Also, attack speed just isn't a statistic [[Zed]] needs. [[Ravenous Hydra]] gives you three times the AD, which increases your ability to farm and poke. Also it allows you to clear without the use of abilities. BotRK has its uses and is certainly a good item in some matchups, but generally I'd opt for Hydra.[/quote]

[quote=TotemTiki][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Electro522] Also, at the [[frozen heart]] statement, it isnt the mana from Iceborn or Tri Force Im going for, its [[sheen]]'s passive. Its passive puts another 100 damage or so onto your q, making it hurt that much more. [/quote] [[Sheen]] is 1250 gold for no CDR, nor defensive stats. Competent top laners will not let you get away with that. [/quote] So do you make a [[Sheen]] first or a [[Frozen Heart]] first? An early [[Glacial Shroud]], then a [[Sheen]], then a [[Frozen Heart]]?[/quote]

[quote=Electro522][quote=GrandmasterD] [[Sheen]] is 1250 gold for no CDR, nor defensive stats. Competent top laners will not let you get away with that. [/quote] But arent there several top laners, including those in the LCS, that starts with a damage item first, then tank items? Also, Sheen is worth 1200, right?[/quote]

[quote=TotemTiki][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=TotemTiki] [quote=GrandmasterD] [[Zed]] Build: [icon=doran's blade] -> [icon=ravenous hydra] -> [icon=last whisper] -> [icon=the brutalizer] masteries: classic 21/9/0 runes: 9x[icon=greater mark of armor penetration] 8x[icon=greater seal of energy regeneration] 1x[icon=greater seal of health] 9x[icon=greater glyph of scaling cooldown reduction] 1x[icon=greater quintessence of armor penetration] 2x[icon=greater quintessence of armor] [[Zed]] is a strong split-pusher and scales really well to late-game. He's safe and can win a lot of matchups. [[Zed]] can determine the pacing in any matchup and even drag things out in unfavourable matchups due to his range. [/quote] Unorthodox, but legit. So do you rush the hydra, because I have seen many [[Zed]]'s rush a [[Blade of the Ruined King]]? Do you think that applies, or is it unneeded? [/quote] BotRK got its active nerfed again. Also, attack speed just isn't a statistic [[Zed]] needs. [[Ravenous Hydra]] gives you three times the AD, which increases your ability to farm and poke. Also it allows you to clear without the use of abilities. BotRK has its uses and is certainly a good item in some matchups, but generally I'd opt for Hydra. [/quote] Have you ever tried to make a [[Sword of the Divine]] on [[Zed]]? I tried it once and annihilated the enemy carry. Do you think it is legit?[/quote]