Garen W Buff.

[quote=Rukt]So, everyone knows and loves (Ok, maybe not everyone) [[Garen]]. He was probably one of the first champs that 80% of use tried to use when we first started. He is a solid pick right now with the tank meta and has a really good early and mid game. But [[Garen]]'s problem, of course, is being CC'd and kited to death in the late game. So here is were I was thinking about so ideas to change his W [[Courage]]. As of right now, [[Courage]] Passively gives you 20% of your current Armor and MR and a 30% reduction to CC and damage for 2/3/4/5/6 seconds. The problem, Imo, is that it doesn't give you anything when you level it up but CD and extended time. So here is were I started thinking about so things. But before I say what they are, I want to take a look at what [[Garen]] is supposed to do in a team fight. He is supposed to break slows with his Q and use his W [[Courage]] to reduce CC and Damage to get to the back lines. In all reality, this never happens because of being Chain CC'd to death. My first Idea for his W was to give him with, every level, more reduction to incoming CC. This would help him stop being CC'd to death before he gets to the back lines. I was thinking about having it scale like this. 20%/40%/60%/80%/100% (Immune to all disables). This would help him a lot in being able to get to the back lines. and before someone says, "Oh, Isn't that just a [[Olaf]] ult?!?" Yes and no. Yes, as in it is the same thing has his ult with no disables. an no it isn't. [[Olaf]] gets his ult at level 6. [[Garen]] wouldn't get this until level 18, because the maxing of his Q and E are so much more important to his early game damage. This is why I think it is an ok buff to him because of him not getting it until level 18. The second part I was thinking is making the damage reduction more as it levels. I was thinking around 30%/35%/40%/45%/50%. This would allow him to soak up more damage when he's in the back lines. And before anyone says, "Isn't that a weaker [[Alistar]] Ult?!?" Again, Yes and no. Yes, he would get less damage reduction and more as he levels, But, No, like I said with the [[Olaf]] ult part. He wouldn't get this major spike until level 18. And if you really think it's not balanced, he is my solution: Make his W [[Courage]] be a two part skill. We could extend the time of the skill be about 2 seconds at max level but, of course, make the CD of it longer to be 40/37/34/30/27. This would hurt his early game a little but help his late game of course. So it would be 4/5/6/7/8 seconds. He would get his CC reduction for the first half of the skill and for the second part he would get the damage reduction. This would allow him at level 18 to Use his W, get 4 seconds of immunity to disables (He doesn't get his damage reduction though), so he can get to the back lines and after that 4 seconds, he would get his damage reduction, but lose his CC immunity. By this time he is already in the back lines. He would be able to cause chaos back there and help win team fights. And keep the passive of the 20% Armor and MR, It's fine where it is. I believe this would help his late game a lot. He could actually be able to get to the back lines with the first 4 seconds with the CC immunity. This also mean that the enemy has burned all their CC on [[garen]] and not your ADC. He would still take a lot of damage for the first 4 seconds but the next 4 would make up for the damage he took during his first stage. He would be in the back lines Spining2Win and taking 50% less damage. And if anyone says that it would be OP or broken, here's the thing. If the enemy team are smart and don't burn all their CC on [[garen]] in the first 4 seconds, the can still cc him in the last 4 seconds because he loses his CC immunity but gains Damage reductions. This would make him like the [[garen]] he is right now but he would still be a threat because of his constant damage from his E and the damage reduction so you can't kill him. [[Garen]] is one of my favorite Champs and I would love to see him have a little more power in the late game. So tell me what you think of these buffs and if there could even be a chance to get Rito to do them.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]1. Garen is already played with The Black Cleaver by pros 2. Courage is already one of the strongest defensive abilities in the game, with 1/2 uptime at 40% CDR and Rank 5.[/quote]

[quote=Vengenator][color=#E8570C]IMO the only thing [[garen]] needs is more movement speed on his q As it is right now all he can do is sort of lumber towards the enemy and spin if he remotely gets close. Unlike other champions like [[malphite]], [[singed]] and [[maokai]] he can't even utilize [[righteous glory]]. Sort of unrelated but his [[courage]] is fine where it is right now.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]What I would like to see would be a tanky AD version of [[Rylai's crystal scepter]], that would be fun :D. Tho, [[randuin's omen]] exists already for that and [[frozen mallet]] just sucks (maybe change [[frozen mallet]] so it works with 40% for auto attacks, 30% for single target physical damage spells and 15% for multi target physical damage spells)[/quote]