7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=NicknameMy]I feel like you are totally underestimating the power of a fully stacked Kassadin ultimate, being able to rapidly used if you get kills.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Kass really doesn't need the MR from athenes either[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]I've played a few games on Kassadin recently and had absolutely no mana issues ever with RoA first item. In one of the two soloq matches I did today I got 0 blues and was still fine (I had built Iceborn however (I was experimenting and vs Yasuo)). In my opinion building more than one mana/mana regen item is a horrible idea as it isn't necessary and hurts his early/mid game a LOT. Still experimenting on second and third items but Zhonya's seems to be a general must for 2nd item and I like Luden's 3rd. Opinions on 2nd/3rd/4th/5th item after RoA?[/quote]

[quote=BigBoxGamer][quote=NicknameMy]Like, MSI doesn't matter at all where Urgot was pick and ban and no, [[Black Cleaver]] doesn't make him even stronger.[/quote] This, MSI doesn't translate into solo q at all.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]the roa into athenes build is tailored to certain specific matchups and team compositions where you can afford to sacrifice early game pressure in mid lane for a slightly better mid~late game spike (w/ good early game pressure in other lanes) dont do it in solo queue, where the whole point is to have control of the game lol and wtf lol urgot is one of the best ad's in this meta b/c of how much dominance he has early mid game and how less dmg other ads do in that time frame[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]I was talking about soloqueue, in competitive different things can be ran (like RoA Atehenes) because of building a comp and strategy around it. Embracing has it right[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, MonteCristo doesn't like Urgot, he shouldn't be pick or ban, rather a niche counterpick. BTW: Didn't H4x once said that this tier list also aims for competetive play?[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Embracing] and wtf lol urgot is one of the best ad's in this meta b/c of how much dominance he has early mid game and how less dmg other ads do in that time frame[/quote] (^: but its urgot therefore he must be bad![/quote]

[quote=Embracing]the reason why urgot is good now is because his "niche" is extremely huge and just cuz hes not fp/ban worthy doesnt mean he's bad lol.. the only fp/ban worthy adcs are kal and sivir right now[/quote]

[quote=BigBoxGamer]Urgot is terrible, if you're every in a lane against Urgot. Just all in, kill him every moment you get and every time he returns to lane before level 6. Just kill him, he garbage. Don't give that trash bot lane Carry a single moment. Punish that person's bot lane choice. Doesn't matter if they have minion wave power, Urgot is garbage.[/quote]