7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=utopus]He sees competitive play because he's a lane bully when played well, he's an excellent duelist, and has a disgustingly huge power spike with muramana. Just because the people you guys see play urgot badly doesn't necessarily mean that he's a bad champion. While he does poorly on sieging turrets, the tank /righteous glory meta makes it a lot easier for team fights under tower / tower dives to happen, so his weakness isn't really abusable.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=OTGBionicArm] I hate to bring up the "You guys are in bronze" card. But yeah. [[Urgot]] is pretty hard to play. Lowbies obviously won't use him to his full potential, and likely don't care enough to master a champion with his skill cap. Saying "I never see it" is a terrible argument.[/quote] I was going to change my argument to better reflect what I meant to say but then MOBAFire went down and it came back and you'd already commented and I was just like "Fuck." Bigbox has no argument here. Like he hasn't PLAYED with one because Bronze people don't do FotM things, he clearly hasn't been watching IEM, if he has he's just pissed about the final game of the series, and Urgot isn't even THAT easy to jump on (comparing him to like Kogmaw or Jinx.)[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]the tier list is catered more towards ranked 5s. not quite solo queue but not quite competitive either.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=H4xDefender]the tier list is catered more towards ranked 5s. not quite solo queue but not quite competitive either.[/quote] Comes with the territory h4x. You have the most notorious tier list, meaning people will use it to argue in any mode of play.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]fun fact: The only mid Urgot at MSI lost, guess on which team he was.^^[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball]Did the changes to [[Ashe]] make her somewhat stronger or is she still far behind the others carries (except those below her)?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=I want to be a Blitzball]Did the changes to [[Ashe]] make her somewhat stronger or is she still far behind the others carries (except those below her)?[/quote] Let h4x make a proper response, but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. [[Ashe]] had her major issue (lack of damage/steroids) fixed. If anything, it's a bit excessive, considering her range and utility. However, her lack of mobility will always hold her back, and she isn't as good as sieging or dueling as the current top tiers. So I'd probably say she's "Okay" now.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce][quote=I want to be a Blitzball]Did the changes to [[Ashe]] make her somewhat stronger or is she still far behind the others carries (except those below her)?[/quote] I personally think she should be between graves and corki in tier 2 atm, but I could be completely off since I never play adc. I think she's still very team dependent though, with a right team that can capitalize on her initiation she'll outperform even tier 1 ad carries but with a team that focuses on sieging or something she's probably gonna struggle. She also has the kogmaw syndrome where she has 0 mobility, and her cc only does so much to help her except Kog has much much higher range and can remain much safer. All in all she definitely is miles stronger than she was, since she actually has a damage steroid now, her E actually provides some utility outside of checking lane bushes early on and she can slow people without sacrificing her mana :D One thing that bugs me is that she lost her interaction with stattik shiv, and the sound frostshot makes is a little unnerving LOL[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[ashe]] is by now probably the most dominant laner in the game.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I disagree.[/quote]