So new Poppy sucks...

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Poppy is def a tank/bruiser in the vein of J4. Lots of situational CC and decent damage.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]ITT: Idiots who think winrates determine how good a champ is (COUGH LEE CONSISTENTLY BELOW 50% COUGH) Dummies.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]It's a factor. I mean, if a champion after a patch has a consistent 55-60% winrate for a long time and only effective counter-play is ban/pick, then there's obviously something broken about that champ.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I think low win rates mostly just reflect that most of the league community doesn't know how to play that champion[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=utopus]I think low win rates mostly just reflect that most of the league community doesn't know how to play that champion[/quote] In the case of some champs like Lee, or Azir, yes. Some champions are simply... bad.[/quote]

[quote=MrCuddowls][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=utopus]I think low win rates mostly just reflect that most of the league community doesn't know how to play that champion[/quote] In the case of some champs like Lee, or Azir, yes. Some champions are simply... bad.[/quote] Does that include people at diamond and up? Because Lee's winrate is under 50% and Azir's is around 45% at the bracket.[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy]^^It should. I think with [[poppy]] it's mostly because she is still newish and people don't get her yet, like the quarterback from The Replacements was saying. And yeah, Lee and Azir will have really low rates even with Diamonds counted because they're in the top 3 or 4 hardest champs to play.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=Lugignaf]Whooops, my bad on the slows not stacking. I thought they still did. I guess I've been out of it longer than I thought. Yea, nvm on the IBG then. There are a lot more useful items, lol.[/quote] FYI, whatever NNM says, do the exact opposite and you'll become a better player. It works 100% of the time.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=Toshabi][quote=Lugignaf]Whooops, my bad on the slows not stacking. I thought they still did. I guess I've been out of it longer than I thought. Yea, nvm on the IBG then. There are a lot more useful items, lol.[/quote] FYI, whatever NNM says, do the exact opposite and you'll become a better player. It works 100% of the time.[/quote] Play always at your best level.^^[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=NicknameMy][quote=Toshabi][quote=Lugignaf]Whooops, my bad on the slows not stacking. I thought they still did. I guess I've been out of it longer than I thought. Yea, nvm on the IBG then. There are a lot more useful items, lol.[/quote] FYI, whatever NNM says, do the exact opposite and you'll become a better player. It works 100% of the time.[/quote] Play always at your best level.^^[/quote] This means "Quit playing LoL cause this season is ape shit". See, it really does work![/quote]