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Notice that there's already 15% scaling CDR from glyphs. It's a total of 20% scaling from runes, so you can go core build into non-CDR items and still get full CDR.

You want more CDR because that's one of the rare things that isn't AP, and helps your damage output. It also makes stacking faster.

Refer to the runes section why taking flat AP is usually not good, and the math section for why CDR is that important.

As for penetration vs CDR, it's usually up to how much CDR items you want to build. Just make sure to get at least 35% CDR whatever runes/items you take. The rest depends on prefrence.

I usually aim for 45~50% CDR endgame, as you'd rather overshoot than fail to reach 45%. Still, 50% only happens when you have 5% or 15% CDR from runes.

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i like this guide and the detailed builds, just for the runes you have choosen to take cool down reduction glyph, i ratehr not use 9x maybe mix with some scalling magic rst or i go for full ap pwer glyph also for quints, your set guives good cdr with morello but for deadman plat irather use lichban or luden for more mobility and earn 10% cdr from lich ban, at all is good.

CDR runes are there to let you build no more CDR than a single morellos. If you want to build more CDR, by all means don't take the CDR runes. I recommend magic pen or movement speed over flat AP though.
As for the and , again its pretty much circumstantial. One gives more mobility and survivability, the other more damage. I don't actually recommend one over the other in general, before I see how the mid game plays out.
As for .....its a HUGE distraction to your positioning.

I like how your build is strange, but does it really work?

Yes. It's not often you get to 6 items, as games usually finishes sooner, but if a game really drags on, other than your core build it IS better building non-AP items some of the time. Especially if you're a little ahead.
I'm talking around silver to diamond, ofc.

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K so first of all I absolutely love the idea behind this build. It really takes Veigar, says, "What is this guy, what does he do, and how can I best exploit is strengths and make up for his weaknesses." It's awesome.

That said, I personally hate not dealing enough damage on Veigar, so my question is whether or not all the extra CDR and Q stacks makes up for less damage you're getting from items. It seems like even though you have a ton of CDR it would be harder to deal Veigar levels of damage until later than a more aggressive build.

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Depends on how much is damage enough for you. It is for me.

Your core build is designed to bring your damage level up to god mode as early as possible AND so it doesn't ever fall off. You basically can't get higher damage than this with your first 3 items.

After that, enenmy tankiness isn't a continuous scale. It usually falls in one of the 4 general spots.
The squishies, which you can kill with the core build alone (with only QW too)
The one defense item ranged damage targets (still dies to one full combo with just your core build) , (if the bubble isn't up]]
The off-tanks with like 3k health and 120 MR (needs 2 combos to kill even if you went full AP)
And the full tanks which take 3~4 combos (only core) +R instead of 3 combos + R (full damage) to kill.

Some falls in between the 4 spots, but not that often. Consider getting a fourth item like / for that anoyying . Still, it's mostly covered in the "when to get" under the damage items.

This is, of course, built on the fact that 1) you got the deathcap morello void staff core, even if you got them a bit late 2) you have around 9~12 times minute stacks on passive from 20 minutes on.

CDR helps with your Q stacks a LOT. It depends on how familiar you are with a bit, but mostly remains around 9~12, from reletively new to veteran.
My personal average is 11.5, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the best out there, so 9~12 * minutes is probably an easy achievement as long as you took CDR.

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