Orianna Build Guide : Diamond Support Orianna - Command: Support [25.04]

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What do you think about adding a little of damage to the build?

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Alas I’ve tried many versions of adding any amount of damage, and it just falls flat every time. This makes sense to some extent; using the abilities for their utility is usually mutually exclusive with using them for damage. You kind of have to pick one or the other.

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Would love an update to this guide.:)

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honestly great guide, ever since ive wanted to get into orianna support this has been a great help

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Dear Aqua Dragon, could you update this guide? coz it is awesome

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Hello Aqua Dragon. The guide is good, and i'm pretty sure it still is with the new changes, but what about the new cosmic drive? I'ts still worth building it?

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Sorry for taking so long to get back to you! After taking the last month to experiment, I think there's a place for it, though it's more niche than it was previously was since there's almost always something more specific I'd rather have instead (until like, the last two items). I'll be updating the guide very soon.

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Awesome breakdown of what to do in each phase of the game. Really helped me understand how to use her better as a Support VS a Mid laner. Good guide!

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Great build, but I slightly disagree with the runes. I personally use Sorcery + Resolve, the opposite what you do. It changes Guardian and Font of Life into Aery and Gathering Storm.

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That's actually what I used before, interestingly enough. It's noted under the runes section. I think it's a powerful style in its own right, but over time I found myself less impressed by Aery's shielding and didn't find as much value out of its shield procs to make it feel as worthwhile as I'd like.

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I feel like seraph second with an early tear is a must. Ori as a champion can spam abilities extremely fast and, as your guide says, she's very mana hungry and as a support your job is mostly to stay behind buffing your team, I find myself constantly going oom in fights without it

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To some extent, as you get more experience on Ori Sup, you waste fewer and fewer spells, meaning you become more efficient with your mana.

So what I've found is that while I struggled initially without tear, nowadays I have pretty much exactly just enough mana for every fight without tear.

I think tear is just okay, if excessive, but even if purchased, there's no need to upgrade it to Archangel until the very end, since Orianna Support doesn't make as much use out of the raw AP that much compared to just having utility items.

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I just made my own account on MobaFire to write up a SuppOrtianna™ guide, and I stumbled upon this one! It's cool to see other people are finding success with SuppOrtianna. I first started playing her as support waaaaaay back when Windseeker's Blessing first came out. One day I said "hey, Windseeker's Blessing armor/mres + Orianna E armor/mres would be pretty strong" and it sure as hell was. Years later and SuppOrtianna still kickin butt. While our playstyle and intent with Orianna seems to be identical, our builds are completely different. If you're interested I will notify you once I finish writing it up. Maybe we can discuss some stuff and give each other feedback?

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That's pretty cool! May want to wait for the new items first; on Wednesday all guides will be somewhat outdated so don't put too much effort atm

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Yeah I realized that shortly after posting this comment. Sad to see Athene's go as that was a core of my build. But some of the new items looks pretty neat! Gonna have to do some testing.

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I am not a fan of Orianna, but I will probably share this guide with some friends who play Orianna, I have checked few of your guides before and they are useful, so I am pretty sure that those who play her will find her useful... Thank you so much for the effort :>

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I am a support main that LOVES Orianna's design, so I wanted to see if there was any way she could be a support champion. Seeing this guide made me so, so happy! It's so in-depth and very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to make it!!

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Your words are so kind; thank you so much! I honestly think out of all my off-meta builds, this is the one that has the highest potential for high-ranking success too. Very underlooked.

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why would you choose bead over refillable potion? Even at level 18 refil pot is 6.42 (15.15 @ lvl 1) times more effective than bead at regenerating health. I get that eventually bead will out heal regen pot assuming youre not going back to base every 24 seconds but it's not like we play a game where ori can tell the enemies to stop attacking her so her health can regen. I also get that you can build it into another item which saves a little gold but I dont think there's a clear winner between the concentrated utility of refil pot vs the longer term + gold saving utility of bead.

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You're right that in terms of healing, the refillable potion will do the trick much more nicely.

But it's rare to even get poked out of health as Ori Sup in the first place. In my games, I'm forced to keep my shield on the ADC, since I lack the mana to pull it to myself. This means that going for aggressive auto trades is pretty much out of the question. This then means my health isn't depleting; I'm usually too far to be in any reasonable amount of danger.

The refillable potion ends up being excessive for such passivity. If an Ori Sup decided to be more aggro, then refillable would be fine. But constantly harassing exhausts Ori's mana pool greatly, their first auto is pretty weak (since the autos are balanced around the stacking passive damage), and it usually just gives the enemy free spellthief procs.

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Refillable pot has a more concentrated heal which is better for the rare occasion that ori takes damage. If anything, your argument against refillable potion further weakens any reason to use bead. Beads regen is only effective when being used for a longer duration such as if ori were to be poked often but since she rarely takes damage then beads efficacy is further reduced compared to refil pot. Are you saying that you buy bead almost solely since it can be built into another item?

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Are you saying that you buy bead almost solely since it can be built into another item?

Correct! It lets you rush straight into stronger support items right from the first back.

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The only viable support item for ori that it builds into is redemption. How is saving 90 gold to rush redemption worth having nearly no sustain in lane. Not to mention that redemption is almost never an item you should be rushing since censer and cruicible are significantly more effective, even grail is a better choice if you havent built any ap unless youre facing heavy aoe. Redemption isnt generally useful until mid game when teamfights breakout, at least compared to the single target utility that censer and crucible provide.

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Nomad’s Medallion builds out of rejuvenation bead.

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yeah but medallion is even less needed to rush than redemption due to it costing way less and offering no active utility that you dont already have, not to mention that watchers is vastly superior to ascended

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I feel there are some compelling reasons to rush medallion.

It gives 5% more CDR than coin
All future coins will give 40 gold instead of 25
You cannot complete the quest until Medallion is finished

It also gives some health regen, but that's not really the reason to get it. The big thing is that it lets all your coins give more money; the faster you get it, the more the investment pays off. It also means you get the ward charges more quickly.

As for Eye of the Ascended... yeah that's garbage for Ori Sup haha. That basically should only be built as a last resort when either the very final teamfight is about to arrive or all the other items are already complete.

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Is it bad if I jump in with my own reasons for why band is the better choice?

> Replying to Jaroddempsey,

Band in the situation that Ori will be in is what RefPot cannot be. You will most likely be out of range of the enemy acd and supp, which means that you will be poked less often. Because you are not tanking some shots, the shield you are providing is your repayment for your adc protecting you. Because of this, (you, not being poked as much as an offensive supp) the 2 charges you get from RefPot is almost useless. The poke you would most likely receive won't do enough to really get the most out of the 2 charges. You standing behind will most likely be enough to get more out of Band than RefPot. As with having band you will have the Biscuits delivered. Those too can really take the place of RefPot and enforce the priority of Band over RefPot. All of this together will be giving you enough sustain to really not need RefPot meaning that RefPot is "Meh."

But your opinion is your opinion. Believe what you want.

> To Aqua,
Love the guide by the way, Love the amount of detail you go into to explain the possibilities and how Ori would be better played as a support! Not what you always see in recent guides! Awesome!

Diamond Support Orianna - Command: Support [25.04]

Diamond Support Orianna - Command: Support [25.04]

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