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Veigar Build Guide by Ramian

Middle Veigar, for Noobs!

Middle Veigar, for Noobs!

Updated on July 1, 2018
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League of Legends Build Guide Author Ramian Build Guide By Ramian 84 6 378,059 Views 47 Comments
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LiL Bunnie FuFuu (3) | August 7, 2018 6:44pm
Hi I'm still learning to play Veigar (got the basics down but actually mastering him is hard) and this guide is very useful for that. Lots of good knowledge here and your threat list/explanations are extremely useful (annoying when someone makes a guide WITHOUT a threat list). Upvoted

You should update this to the current patch so more people can enjoy this, like I did.
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Ramian (4) | August 23, 2018 8:17pm
Hey I'm glad you liked it!

Yeah, I've been thinking about updating this for a while. Unfortunately, there is a LOT I need to change. This meta has too short of games for the Seraph's Embrace-based build to suffice. I now build Luden's Echo as a first item and just get as much AP as soon as possible to deal with the short games. The problem then is that there is SO much I have to update that it'll be a large project that'll take some time, which I don't currently have much of right now in life. I'll update it eventually haha :D
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Yommus (1) | July 13, 2018 2:49pm
lots of thrests to veigar
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Ramian (4) | July 14, 2018 7:38pm
Yep. Just another reason you never see him in high elo or pro play. The threat levels according to my guide are based almost solely on the laning phase, since after that Veigar becomes stronger AND he has more support from his team other than maybe his jungler. Also keep in mind that these threat levels are based simply on how I personally see them. If you look at other Veigar guides, you'll find varying threat levels for different champions.
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asffg123 | June 28, 2018 5:25pm
This has got to be one of the best guides for Veigar I've ever read. Reading through the entire thing was fantastic. I got a few chuckles (I can relate - fellow Veigar main here) and you really went in depth with the guide. This clearly has tons of effort - Nice job!
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Ramian (4) | June 28, 2018 7:44pm
Hey i'm glad you liked it! I really did put a lot of effort into it means a lot to hear it was worthwhile XD
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Chromuro (47) | June 17, 2018 4:35am
Hi! I was looking through the matchups and I saw that with Malzahar you suggested taking Cleanse, but cleanse doesn't remove the suppress, so it's actually useless (if you intended to take cleanse for every other reason, then ok); and the video for the full combo is broken :^
Anyway nice guide!
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Ramian (4) | June 17, 2018 1:46pm
Oh and thanks for letting me know about the video. However, it seems to be working fine for me on this end. I'll see if re-uploading it to YouTube or something might help. The guide should be updated by Friday this week, so if you happen to revisit it then let me know if it's still broken. Also, is that the only video that's broken?
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Chromuro (47) | June 23, 2018 12:47pm
Hi! So, I came back as you asked (a bit late, sorry lol); I don't know if you updated the video (I see the last update was 21/06 so I think yes?), but for me it's still broken. I've tried to open it in firefox, to see if it was chrome's fault, but nop, still broken
Just to warn you :^
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Chromuro (47) | June 17, 2018 3:23pm
Hm, that's strange.
I mean, earlier I saw another guide where every video was broken and actually a doubt came in my mind that it could have been an error on my part, but I can't think a reason about why this happens.
But yes, as now it is the only video broken for me (I rechecked just to be sure, proof that I'm not mad)
And sure, I'll be glad to come back and let you know :^
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Ramian (4) | June 17, 2018 1:17pm
YOU'RE WRONG!!

No just kidding. You're right. Next time I update the guide I'll make sure to make that more accurate. I think I was thinking QSS. Either way, thanks for letting me know friend!
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ZyrZylo (1) | June 17, 2018 4:19am
you dont have morgana in your list of matchups.
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Ramian (4) | June 17, 2018 1:28pm
It's interesting you bring that up. When I was considering what champions to put in my Vs. Match-ups, I thought carefully about who is a mid laner and who is a support. That said, you'll note that I have Karma listed as a match-up, because she flexes pretty commonly between support and mid. Morgana however is very rarely seen in the mid lane. Furthermore, I can't remember the last time I played against a Morgana as Veigar, making anything I have to say about her conjecture at best.

Still, that doesn't mean she doesn't belong here. If I ever put her in the guide here's what I would say: She's a huge Veigar counter. Threat level 9, easy. Morgana in the mid lane usually builds less like a support and more like an AP mage, making her QW combo deal obscene amounts of damage. Build Mercury's Treads instead of Sorcerer's Shoes. And Jesus, her E makes your E literally worthless. Try to bait it out before landing a stun on her. Stay behind your minions to make sure she can't land her QW combo on you, stay safe, and ask for help from your jungler.

Hmm... Now that I think about how threatening she is I might add her the next time I update the guide. Thanks for bringing it to front of my attention!
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Ramian (4) | June 17, 2018 1:40pm
Yeah. I haven't published it yet, but I threw her in as a match-up. It should be up to date by Friday. Thanks again for bringing it more to my attention!
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AntiFaker | April 22, 2018 9:02pm
The guide was good. But is it really necessary to max E second rather than W? As you can see, E has better CC on enemies (If it hets the walls of E) inside and will increase as you level it up (From 1.5 to 2.5 seconds of stun) which is a best way to land your W and Q better.
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Ramian (4) | April 22, 2018 11:04pm
You could totally max your E second. Whenever Veigar is (rarely) picked in pro play that seems to be what they tend to do. But in solo queue I simply don't trust my teammates to carry me ALL the way to the point when W deals enough to damage to kill someone if I max my E second. Besides, the more I practice landing my W as follow up to E specifically, the more I wish my W did more damage, because as long as the stun duration is on your E max rank, you W's damage at max rank PLUS its AP scaling means you get to the point of killing someone from full health MUCH sooner. Additionally, landing your W is easiest as follow-up to your E, right? Well, your E's 1.25 second stun (rank 1) is really plenty of time for your W to hit them, especially when you consider you W is AoE; even if the stun duration runs out before W hits them then they still have to deal with the fact that they may not be able to get out of the way soon enough. In terms of why I personally max W second I could go on and on (just like talking about Veigar in general) but I'll leave it there. Shoot another comment or a PM if you wanna know more about why I do this.
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abboz (4) | April 22, 2018 10:39pm
most people max their stuns last. This goes for champs across the board. People go w second to increase dmg output. You could think about going e second if you were a support but because veigar is there as a glass cannon, you def want to max q, then w, then e.
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Ramian (4) | April 22, 2018 11:14pm
I concur. If, however, I'm getting smashed in lane then adopting a more supportive playstyle and maxing E second and becoming a stun bot is zehr gut in my experience.
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Death2Daleks (1) | April 22, 2018 9:20am
Are you still sure about the Abyssal Mask. Its range has been nerfed to 325, a range you'll probably never be in. The item has shifted to more of a tank item.
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Ramian (4) | April 22, 2018 7:19pm
Hey thanks! I didn't even know about the range nerf. The next time I update the guide (soon, now) I'll be sure to revisit that. Thanks for letting me know!
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hyp5219 | March 29, 2018 5:30pm
Would the mask be a late game item?

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hyp5219 | March 30, 2018 7:46am
Did not notice it was in the section labeled late game haha...
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Ramian (4) | March 29, 2018 10:27pm
Yes. You'll want to have completed at LEAST your Seraph's Embrace (to guarantee you're getting the most out of the Mask's mana), your Rabadon's, and your Morello/Void Staff in order to ensure you get the most out of the 10% bonus magic damage. If you get the Mask too early then all it does is delay the aforementioned items' power spikes without adding all that much to your item build until after you get the other items.
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hyp5219 | March 30, 2018 7:42am
Thank you! Was a great guide, love Veigar now!
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Dzopilant (55) | March 17, 2018 4:17am
The tiny master of Evil did find a great BIG guide !

Overall nice, useful and made by someone with similar grandiose delusions as Veigar himself, +1 ^^
Friendly text with welcome humor to ease a bit the long reading
Very clear explanations concerning abilities and best use
Essential advices for laning and farming for one of the worse early AA of the game
To the point and convincing itemization section
Like a lot the combo chapter and use example
<3 the fun facts, feels like a nice reward to have read the full guide

Keep the powerful mage ruling the mid lane !
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Ramian (4) | March 17, 2018 9:46am
Hey, thanks for taking the time to browse the whole thing! I know it's quite the marathon, and I'm glad you liked it :D
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E4ce | February 1, 2018 8:39am
Really good guide, helped me a lot!
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jhoijhoi (2053) | December 20, 2017 3:50am
What a great guide! :)
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Ramian (4) | December 22, 2017 1:57pm
Hey thanks!! It wouldn't have happened without you!! seriously, thank you!!
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