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Shyvana Build Guide by SpikeThePike

Jungle [PRE-SEASON 10] Shyvana jungle total guide - The Most in Dep

Jungle [PRE-SEASON 10] Shyvana jungle total guide - The Most in Dep

Updated on November 20, 2019
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iamBong | February 21, 2021 4:36pm
we need you , wake up and update your guide pls
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iamBong | February 21, 2021 4:34pm
where are you
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iamBong | August 19, 2020 10:01am
do you think which one better at late game, trinity force or wit's end ?
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Issu | January 15, 2020 2:12pm
Sup Spike. There's a mistake in Gank and Tank build's notes, saying that we should take Visage instead of BotRK, but there's apparently no BotRK in this build.
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Weihna (6) | December 11, 2019 7:55am
Hi, Spike! It is me again. I was wondering: What do you think about the new Sanguine Blade on Shyvana? I seriously thought about it and used it as a third item, after Titanic Hydra and jg item and found it really good, specially for counter-jungling. What are your thoughts about it?? :D
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villePlatte (6) | November 29, 2019 11:50am
Informative guide, thanks. It covers just about anything a new Shvana player needs to know
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peepeebutt | November 26, 2019 11:37am
how come you start w? I went in practice tool and found that e does more damage. Is this outdated? because Im pretty sure I read that you went w because celerity gave you more damage, so im guessing that this was before celerity was nerfed. Also do you have an op.gg I can follow?
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Weihna (6) | November 21, 2019 5:04pm
Hello, Spyke. I am your stalker a fan of your work and I've been playing a lot with Shyvana. Acording to you we could take drake already at level 4, though it was risky because we would be really low and could die should the enemy come. However, I tried jg after those changes in the jungle at patch 9.23 and I was astonished at how fast Shyvana was growing. Before I would need to take red-blue-gromp and 2 mini wolves to get lvl 3, now I don't even need the wolves and, to make thing more interesting, just farming I managed to be 2 levels ahead of an enemy Rengar. To make it even better, taking the first drake, an infernal drake that was supposed to be the hardest to take, was astonishingly easy and fast at lvl 5. I wonder if it would be that easy lvl 4, but given at how fast Shyvana evolved just by farming (and taking the enemy chickens), is way easy to take 5 before going drake.

Now with those changes in the jungle, don't you think that was somewhat an indirectly great buff for a champion that take Dragons with ease such as Shyvana?
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SpikeThePike (16) | November 23, 2019 12:01pm
Hello :) Yes, I think the pre-Season 10 changes mean that Shyvana is 'back'! The main thing is the changes to jungle XP and camp spawning timers, so that being a good jungle farmer is now actually rewarded. Taking enemy chickens is a good strategy, someone like Rengar is always going to leave those at levels 1-2 because he takes them so slow.

Either level 4 or level 5 for first drake seems good to me, Shyvana can do it at either level if she went back already (for example, Hunter's Talisman + Hunter's Machete + Dagger should do it fast and safe). The exact timing of going there in a game is obviously going to depend on your vision, your knowledge of where the enemy jungler is, and whether your bot lane has lane priority. So I should say in the guide that Shyvana is "looking" to take first drake any time from level 4 onwards.

I have aimed to update the guide for Pre-Season 10 fully when the pre-season started on 20 November but there's probably parts that are still out-of-date, if you spot anything specific please do let me know. I also plan to update some of the videos shown, but need to find good current examples of Shyvana play - if anyone wants to suggest a good Shyvana video in comments, please do!
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Regiya | November 23, 2019 6:00am
I also think that you are right. They lowered hp of the dragons and the game is more based on dragons. This is indirectly a shyvana buff. The only con is cloud drake is useless.
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Weihna (6) | November 23, 2019 10:01am
yeah, only good for her passive, though the cloud drake dragon soul do help on move speed and increase her DPS after ult for a while.
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FlyingWailord (8) | November 2, 2019 7:19pm
Not gonna lie, this is the longest guide I ever read. However, this has basically everything a shyvanna player could ask for. I think we will see more of her in season 10 due to the massive dragon changes. AP nuke shyvanna is going to be nuts when those changes hit the live servers.
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WolfyJRB | July 1, 2019 7:01am
not gonna lie but people prefer to play shyvana as an AP jungler now instead of AD but i've seen her hybrid
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SpikeThePike (16) | September 14, 2019 10:13am
Yes AP Shyvana is a lot of fun.
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Fantasic loser | July 1, 2019 12:54am
did shyvana strong at late game ? , and what should i do with her ?
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SpikeThePike (16) | September 14, 2019 10:12am
Late game Shyvana wants to tank up, you can even sell items and switch to a full tank build.
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Sir Obie (1) | June 5, 2019 9:41am
Ok so with the scuttle crab rework I cannot seem to have a healthy farm. I used to use scuttle to heal back up but since it spawns later im not sure what to do. Any suggestions?
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SpikeThePike (16) | September 14, 2019 10:10am
Shyvana shouldn't need to heal up if you keep in motion around the jungle camps - kite them slightly, let the Krugs block each other a bit, and you should take less damage.

You can also back early - as soon as you have 350 gold - get a Hunter's Talisman and then you can stay healthy in the jungle for a long time.
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Spirit_of_Malaz | September 11, 2018 7:37am
Hi Spike, I already complemented you on the guide before. I wanted to ask, do you still think TH is the first choice over FM? I'm very low elo so I usually prefer to go for a conservative option but I see also that most discussions on reddit and other site suggest to go for FM as first item after BR, what do you think?
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SpikeThePike (16) | September 18, 2018 6:04am
Be cautious about discussions on Reddit, trolls hang out there. I mean there you have a lot of opinionated people who post, but (usually) no real information or feedback about who they are or their level of knowledge. Reddit is often used for strongly expressed views without detailed data, analysis or evidence to back them up. Remember it's only one guy's viewpoint. Not so different from reading all the New and half-completed guides here at Mobafire...

I've also noticed that typical Reddit posters (on Shyvana Mains) seem totally ignorant of this guide's existence and the detailed Shyvana knowledge it contains.

The choice between TH and FM is covered in some detail in the guide already, but TL;DR it can be like this:
- in solo queue, at low and middle elo (anything less than Platinum) take TH first
- if playing with skilled allies (Platinum+) take FM first
- if playing with friends or in a team, and you are the team's tank take FM first

Explanation: Frozen Mallet works well when you work with an ally, so you can 2v1 somebody very easily because they can't move away and they can't burst you down to 0hp before they will die. Frozen Mallet is not so good in solo fights: although you can keep fighting for longer with FM compared with TH (you hold the enemy in place, and you can take maybe 10% more damage), the enemy can fight for longer too and he can out-damage you.

I play on two accounts, one is Platinum and one is Silver. The main difference I can notice between low elo and high elo games is how quickly your team-mates respond and work with you in 2v1 situations. In Platinum, your team-mates notice and anticipate when there is a chance for a 2v1 coming up, they want it, and when it comes they are quickly with you in the correct position so that your team achieves a kill. In Silver, your team-mates ignore anything which is not their personal immediate objective, I mean your allies will want to keep CSing and stay in their lane even when you ping there is a fight about to happen in River - sometimes they don't even move when you gank their lane (because they are so busy trying to last hit the minions still).

This means at low elo, as a jungler like Shyvana (who doesn't have an easy ganking + CC mechanic) you will be in 1v1 fights more often, and 2v1 fights less often. In 1v1 fights, TH is better.

TH always helps you farm faster, which is important for Shyvana to keep ahead in gold and XP. Importantly, it gives you this advantage as an incomplete item, as soon as you have Tiamat - which you should have at around 14-15 minutes of game time if you started BR + Boots of Speed. In contrast, FM gives no interesting benefits except health, until you have completed the item. So this is another reason why TH is better than FM is a solo queue type of game: it brings more benefits to Shyvana herself, but less to the team as a whole.

Frozen Mallet helps Shyvana disrupt, so that your team-mates can kill. Titanic Hydra helps Shyvana herself be the main damage dealer.

The advice can change in a game where Shyvana is carrying hard for whatever reason (got lucky early, dumb opponents, or smurf account). Then, even in low-elo solo queue, FM can be better before TH though probably I will look to finish the game with both items. Some reasons for this are covered in the guide, but briefly:
- if you are ahead in levels or items, Bloodrazor is enough damage on its own to kill most enemies, and FM makes it harder for them to escape you
- if you are ahead, you want to be "farming" enemy champions more than jungle camps between 10 and 20 minutes, to preserve your lead and set the enemies back even further, maybe force them to start flaming each other or rage-quit - so here it doesn't matter so much that FM takes camps slower and you have no Tiamat
- if you are ahead already and have enough damage to kill, then defences can be more important than buying more damage - this is for two reasons, first you are more scary if all the enemies think you are "unkillable", second your bounty if you do get killed starts to get very high and you don't want to give the enemies that gold! Defences work better (more advantage for the gold spent) if you are ahead because the enemies don't have high damage when they are behind, so buying defences makes you unkillable.
- Frozen Mallet costs less gold than TH but it is bad until it is a completed item - if you are carrying, maybe you can go back with 3100 gold and buy the completed item immediately, for a huge power spike

HTH
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Spirit_of_Malaz | November 12, 2018 12:34pm
Great answer, thanks a lot, now it's definitely clearer why you opt for TH. I have to admit that where I stand now I find it easier to be ahead 1-2 lvls on the enemy jungler and usually prefer to get FM to be more tanky and sticky to the enemy. But you have many good points about TH that I will definitely consider when deciding on which second item to take. Recently (after few losing streak...) I even found safer to go with Resolve secondary, less damage, but I'm more difficult to kill.
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