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Ornn Guide | An Iron Will Must be Forged [TOP/SUPPORT]

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I kinda miss Spellbook rune page. It's arguably better when it comes to scaling. Tank support build (masterworks>locket>redemtption>vow) could also be mentioned (even when playing top lane)

But generally it's a very well detailed guide GJ :)

best ornn guide ever tought that match up guide is pretty strange on certain champs for example renekton, camille, garen, and maokai. also add senna and mordekaiser

renekton is 3? in guide it reads that he cant compete against ornns all in with out full fury bar... thats not only thing he loses ornn scales like 100% more.

maokai is 3 too? yeah he will out sustain you but does it matter he cant kill you either and when you back you lose maybe 12 farm and scale super hard to late.

camille is 2 i think it should be switched to 3 becouse okay it is easy to bait her shield but he also has insane mobility and that makes it much harder to hit your brittle and second q does little true damage to you. also he can dodge your ult with her ult so you lose insane amount of damage.

maybe this guide is little outdated? but about garen i think the 2 is ok but you should add to its describtion to be wary of hes w when you use your w becouse you will deal absolutely zero dmg. and try to poke him with q to stop his passive healing. and that you should build sunfire always and not iceborn gauntlet becouse hes ult deals true damage.

also i dont see mordekaiser or senna on list i think he morde should go 4-5 and senna maybe 3

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Support? Hahahah very interesting tho. Might try it but for top its pretty good

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Support Ornn, while not as strong as top lane Ornn, is actually very much viable.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Ornn+Support
Ornn Support hit grandmaster last season by playing mostly Ornn in the support role

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Did someone say guide review? Well, you didn't but I've decided to review this guide anyways :^)

feedback

Cheat Sheet:
Summoner Spells:

Teleport should be shown before Ignite to emphasize its importance over the other.

Items:

The guide could do a better job of telling which order to get your items in. While the example build helps with telling you the order, that isn't enough. Especially considering you build some LATE GAME PURCHASES before late game.
Frozen Mallet is a super strange itemization choice and is outclassed completely by Sterak's Gage if you want a tanky AD item.

Ability Order:

You have E max in there but I don't think I see any information about that in both the cheat sheet and the guide.

Runes Reforged:

"You should consider going guardian only into heavy poke lanes." Is this for top lane too? If not this might need to be more specific.
Ornn is one of the best users of Conditioning. I think you should have it in there against match ups where you can get away with it.
"the health shard is very mediocre and shouldn't be picked." Health shard can be superior in some situations, but you would be right to say that armor and mr would be superior in most cases.

Skill Order:

"Your W gains 4% more max hp magic damage at max rank." I believe we've already talked about this before but that's the maximum damage increase, and you would be dealing way more than 4% more max hp magic damage due to the minimum damage increase, especially earlier in the game. That is why you max W.

Items/Upgrades:

You have a broken icon under components :(
You have a Spirit Visage in the guide but not in the cheat sheet.
I'm proud of you for having Sterak's Gage over Frozen Mallet in this section :P
"There are definitely some champions that want it, but [Molten Edge] tends to be the better upgrade for most champs." You have broken code here.
I'm quite surprised that Frozen Fist is higher than Infernal Mask on the tier list. I am curious of why that is.
I disagree with Luden's Pulse being in a higher tier than Zhonya's Paradox. In my opinion, 25 AP + 15 armor is more valuable than 30 AP and some mana.
I see a lot of questionable builds under "Ideal Upgrades" but to be honest, between how innovative this section is, and how much effort it took, and how innovative "Upgrade Tier List" is, I'm not even going to complain :p

Top Lane/Support/TeamFighting/Combo:

These sections are super infortmative and now I really regret not reading those earlier when I was trying Ornn. Very well done. Only complains I have here are some spelling errors such as "miss position," (I chuckled at this one) and the lack of BBcode on champions and items which could pretty up the chapters and make them easier to read.
Some things I would like to see added in these sections or between them are using Teleport to its fullest potential and dealing with split-pushing.

Matchups:

I think this section describes match ups, which is fine, but does not really tell you how to play or win against those match ups. I do believe it could benefit from more information overall.
My last nitpick for this would be to separate the top lane and support match ups.

Overall, this guide is already great, which is supported by the fact that it is a 2 time contest winner, but I believe it can be better so that you can brittle the rest of the competition.

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Oki I fix things good

give scout if you have big pee pee

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this is now very popular build, but with teemo, Ornn is 0 :D
Excellent build and guide, very beauty bbc code

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Coding-wise, this is some amazing work you've done here Dapper. The one thing I love about this guide the most is the way you've structured up the different ideal upgrades and tiers for the items that you upgrade for your team as that's one of the things in 's kit that's really unique and therefore will be useful for lots of interested players out there.

Congratulations on winning the contest too, so earned! :P

Really nice guide! I wanted to try out Ornn and I think this will help me to do some good sh*t! Oh btw, are you an Ornn Main and stream? :D

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I made a mobafire account just for this: I like your Ornn guide and so far it's served me well, with a 70% win rate in silver with 13 games, two of them being leaves due to internet instability. Just one thing, is it possible to add the champion names to the counters section? It's just a minor annoyance that I'm not able to CTRL+F the counters easily. Otherwise, thank you and awesome guide!

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What a true beauty of a guide.

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Hey man, rly cool visuals right there, can u tell me what u used for that contour on runes? I can't rly figure it out? Thanks

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Thanks for the compliemnts!
Almost all my visuals are based off of JhoiJhoi's "How to Make a Guide" guide. I recommend checking it out along with Mobafire's BBCode guide if you want to include high quality visuals in your guide.

Here are the links for both of them:
Making a Guide: https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/making-a-guide-101506
BBCode: https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/wiki/mobafire/bbcode-guide

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Wowzers, this guide though! What a thorough job, +1. Coding-wise, I especially like the section where you detail Ornn's masterwork items.

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Thanks for the kind words! I owe you for most of the coding and chapter templates, your "Making a Guide" guide really helped me out!

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Really great job for your first guide Dapper. Make sure you keep updating and refining it over time! I'm glad Ornn players have a detailed resource available to them.

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A compliment from THE PsiGuard
Truly a rare treasure UwU

I'll make sure to keep it up to date and eventually get to fixing all the things mentioned in Qadassa's critique :P

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