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did this build change with the new patch? I know Thornmail got buffed with its passive.

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Dang dude thanks for the On-hit idea I'll give credits if it turns out that I can make a near-meta build with the on-hit stuff, vouchies

So ravenous hunter is just going away and is being replaced by Treasure Hunter which just gives extra gold for the first takedown on each champ. Are you going to make a new build to replace the ravenous hunter one you have now?

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extremely helpful, used it for arams lol worked perfectly

I'm on the Rammus mains Discord and everyone says Sunfire is better and that Deadmans is not worth building anymore. What do you think about this?

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+1 for Frillen

I can add that Rammus is very flexible, you can play any build into him, as long as it has a minimum of resists, if you wanna check some other more off-meta but better to snowball builds, make sure to check mine (sry for advertising in your comment section)

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132 master players played ranked with Rammus over the past 2 days and these are the item winrates.

Don't trust Rammus mains. Trust data.

After the bramble nerf tragedy of 2021, what do you do in terms of first buys? I know Thornymale doubles the damage on your engage, but between the better engage of thornmail versus the 125% damage increase to jungle monsters that a full Bami's mythic gives, I'm just not sure which is more important for Rammus. I've experimented with full clearing until I have the gold for either a full Thornmail buy or a full Mythic, and my clearing doesnt take much of a hit for it but clearly I miss out on gank opportunities. Because bramble is just 35 armor and a lackluster grievous wounds passive, should I even bother combining two cloth armor until I have the gold for a full Thornmail? Or do buy bamis to sit on for a while and full focus on getting a full Thornmail? Thanks for always keeping up with the guide over the years, you've helped me find my true love in Rammus and his sultry six voice lines, you are an "Ok" dude in my big book of rammus

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Emm, Okey...

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I haven't been playing a ton since the Bramble nerfs, and all my games have been short, so I only got to finish 1-2 items and haven't really bothered getting Bramble.

I think rushing a jungle item is the most reasonable plan atm to compensate for slow clearing. But don't try to powerfarm in higher elos, jungle exp and gold are nerfed too hard. Only way to win is to gank a lot and enable someone on your team to carry.

I still rush and before I start to worry about Bramble - and only if they have a lot of healing or sustain, or Thornmail late game vs auto attackers.

seems to be performing better than at the moment though. Stay up to date on Leagueofgraphs.com item stats by elo.

, and are also performing really well.

great tips man, thanks for taking the time

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My pleasure, good sir gayweedlord!

I love Rammus and I love this guide! Thanks alot for all the useful information and tips for climbing!

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I love this kind (of) feedback!

Hey, I don't see any thornmail in the item section. Is there a reason for this? Do you not build that item?

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I finish it, but rarely before , and often - and mostly just for the increased anti heal.

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Do you have any thoughts on any new builds with the now released Rammus changes?

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It's pretty hard to find items that provide more value for at the moment than , , , and . and are decent alternatives to force of nature, but pretty much all the other items are unmatched.

Predator might be a thing tho!

Hey Frillen, so I was just thinking, now that ravenous is a pretty dead rune now as it no longer helps give a healthy first clear and the omnivamp is pretty underwhelming now going from the usual 10k+ healing to now like 2k, I was thinking that riftmaker might be a pretty good item to compensate for the loss in omnivamp and the cheap shot damage loss for running the sorcery runepage. It is more expensive, however I think it might just be a better option when you are ahead early, but obviously when even or behind, it's probably still better to get chemtank. Let me know your thoughts!

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Riftmaker is not good early or mid game, but if you go deadmans, gargoyles into Riftmaker 3rd or 4th I'd expect it to be a a very strong late game mythic.

The problem is that nothing really competes with chemtank and deadmans rush at the moment.

yeah you're right honestly. I played 1 game with riftmaker and it felt nice to heal a lot and do some extra damage, but chemtank deadmans is pretty strong. I guess I just gotta adjust my playstyle until ravenous becomes viable again. I swapped over to sorcery secondary and it feels pretty good with the extra movespeed. I'm still making wits end rush work as well which is nice, bramble into wits into chemtank, although once I get into diamond I feel as though I should probably switch on over to straight up tank.

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this has helped me so much, especially the part about focusing on the krugs, ive gotten 4 full S grades and two S- in less than 24 hours, im now one S or S+ from mastery level 7 with rammus

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I wasn't sure if I should continue our older comments or make a new one, but I made a new one!

With the new changes to jungle coming Rammus is probably going to be hurt even more than the champs with fast clear right? :(

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At first glance it doesn't look very fonky. It's a bit of a struggle to keep tempo early already, so seem like we might be going full support Rammus soon. Who knows, maybe the new ult is gonna be so OP that we'll be fine. Or worst case we're gonna suck for a few patches and hope for a buff. It goes up and down!

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In a post below you talk about choosing your items depending on whether you can gank. However, I don't understand how to do that. For me the decision of whether I gank or not is very simple: If an enemy laner is overextended, I go for the gank. If no enemy is overextended, I keep farming. But that changes from one minute to the next. The enemy laner who was overextended a minute ago now is roaming or what have you. So how can I figure out in advance (when I'm at the shop) whether I'm gonna be able to gank one or two minutes later?

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It's a qualified guess at best. You just have to get experience and trust your instincts ;)

But you can take these factors into account:

- Does your jungle matchup outfarm you? Then you must have succesfull ganks early to be impactful, so you might consider early boots or even rush boots of mobility.

- Do you have a scaling team with bad gank setup in all lanes? Then buy items for optimized clear speed and pink wards to avoid getting invaded.

- Do you fear getting invaded by or ? Consider red-smite and/or early .

- Need to camp a lane? Get blue smite and boots.

- Need to tower dive? Get + and/or some .

Your safest bet early is to rush blue smite and boots and look for ganks, since Rammus is a slow early jungler and his potential lies in great gank potential early and later in strong scaling. I like the early or two + as it provides both fighting, clear speed and sustain.

In higher elo, the right early ganks means everything. In lower elos, it's can be more consistent to power farm, scale and solo carry, since you can't rely on your teammates as often.

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Hmmm, that brought up a lot of additional questions:

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Do you have a scaling team with bad gank setup in all lanes?

Which gank setups are good and which ones are bad?

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Do you fear getting invaded by or ?

I always fear getting invaded by everybody. When should I be specially fearful?

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Need to camp a lane?

When do I need to camp a lane?

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Need to tower dive?

How do I know in advance when I'm gonna need to tower dive?

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A good gank setup is any reliable chained CC, like into or . Bad gank setup is the absense of this, like a mid, / bot or top.

You should never be fearful, just prepared for the worst. Stay healthy in the jungle early with potions and ward the pixel brush near your red buff and raptors. Keep Krugs and Raptors on cooldown and that alone should make it hard to invade you early.

Champions like and should not win 1v1 unless they get a substantial lead or help from a laner with priority. Just remember to maximize the effect of by going W + E whenever possible – aftershock is a lot stronger when activated while in . Often you will activate it with or and THEN , but whenever possible try to get into W first for maximum value.

You need to camp a lane, if that lane is useless when behind and/or have a strong midgame. , , , , are examples of good candidates for a camp.

Tower diving is a very high risk/high reward play that can snowball a game very hard in both teams favor depending on who come out on top. If you have a hard winning lane you wanna consider spam diving that lane. But not if enemy team has a lot of answers for that; like missing laners that might be roaming, , or .

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Thank you for your very detailed answer. Unfortunately it looks like this is the kind of skill that requires you to have basic knowledge of most champions in the game. Currently I only have 30 champs at level 3 or higher, so I guess it's gonna take a while until I can use these ideas.

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Fortunately, you don't need to master all champions to understand their basics.

It doesn't take many games against scaling champs to notice that they are vulnerable early and can get uncontrollably strong late if you don't suppress them.

No need to get mastery level 7 or even level 1 on 150 champions. You usually only need a game or two against a , , , , , to realize they are scaling champs.

Of course, when you play vs a champion for the first time you will be taken off guard and fail to judge their capabilities, especially in the hands of an experienced player.

This happens to even the best players every day; underestimate a certain champ or player and hopefully remember this in a future simiar situation.

Naturally, you can't get good without experience and there will always be people better than you to beat you with your lack of experience.

The hardest part is analyzing and understanding what decisions are/were more or less optimal. There is rarely a single "right" or "wrong" decision, but countless good and bad one.

It never gets easy to evaluate all your decisions, but this also gets less confusing with experience. It's a constant ebb and flow of spamming games, limit testing, trial and error and evalutation – not the mention the struggle to not lose your mind with frustration every now and then ;)

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