@dragoku now that i think about it shroud of darkness is pretty useless after 1 lvl. I'l also put frozen mallet for optional items althought it helped me to get out alive in a few games. I'l also try starting with boots but so far i didnt have problems getting first blod or even double or triple kills early (i play arranged with twisted fate so that sure helps.)

hey i've been playing around with nocturne a lot and looking at your guide it feels somewhat right. My biggest problem i see is that your skill build is not good. Duskbringer should be maxed first however after that first point of shroud of darkness you don't need it at all until end game. Its much more beneficial to have the extra damage and fear from unspeakable horror. That first level of shroud is the most beneficial but after that the efficiency of it drops dramatically. a.k.a. Level 1 Shroud = 20% gain in AS and an ability shield that if used properly doubles the AS gain. Level 2 Shroud = 5% gain in AS and thats it. See the drop in usefulness. Secondly i feel your item build is a little all over the place. In most builds you focus on something you want and build that. Basically i don't see the point of frozen mallet in your rotation and i hate the new pricing on doran's items. I say frozen mallet because although yes, i see the health benefit and the slow, it doesn't help your build. That slow is basically useless when you factor in your ability to Duskbringer someone, ghost after them, exhaust them, fear them, and then duskbringer them again. I would suggest starting boots with 2 health pots and a mana pot. IT'll increase your mobility and thus your ability to get that all important first blood. and then the health and mana pots make up for the loss in health and regen from the shield. I hope that helps.

Thank you for the constructive criticism

asd