Shaco - Alive and well :)

[quote=Dante Rebellion][quote=B-Wong] Shaco is so hit/miss though. Early game is so fucking key and if you get owned even once, you'll be screwed the entire game. The early game aspect of Shaco in general makes him very hard to master. [/quote] ^ THIS! Hence why it is key to jungle and improve ur chances by being even more unpredictable and actually get a farm going on.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam][quote=JunSupport] @Adonikam: Main him up to 1800s ELO. Then you may brag. :P [/quote] The only problem I can see is the enemy destroying your boxes/stealing your buffs but he is a good counter-jungling so it's kind of negligble and with a good team the enemy will die for trying to break boxes haha.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]the biggest problem is that if you start at blue (which if you do manage to pull off will help increase ur chances of winning since you will never be mana hungry) and they pop ur boxes.. ur pretty much done. Starting at red is what most shaco's do but maintaining an efficient game whilst starting at red can be difficult because of shaco's mana problems.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Not necessarily - Regi starts at red every game simply because it's very simple to transition to blue if your boxes do get popped. And even if Shaco has a bad early game, it's still possible to carry. Regi once nearly carried a losing game singlehandedly as Shaco, even while going 0/5 - he just pushed bottom lane and farmed. With a better team, he would have won.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]its regi, alot of people are FAR FAAAAAAAAR behind regi's sheer experience and not to mention his skill level. Regi himself said that if you mess up your early game, your DONE. It doesnt matter if regi "nearly carried", he didnt and couldnt carry it completely. A weak early game kills shaco, and yes he always starts at red, and it is the safest, however if you do get to start at blue its the quickest and most mana efficient since you can gank without mana starvation fear[/quote]

[quote=Halfcentaur]I still don't see the point of blotching out parts of his build. It obviously failed :P[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]I've said this in another thread, I don't enjoy Shaco anymore, at my current normal ELO I cannot start at Red as most of my teammates refuse to "protect" their jungler and I'd get 5 man ganked there, slowing jungle speed immensely. [quote=Dante Rebellion] its regi, alot of people are FAR FAAAAAAAAR behind regi's sheer experience and not to mention his skill level. Regi himself said that if you mess up your early game, your DONE. It doesnt matter if regi "nearly carried", he didnt and couldnt carry it completely. A weak early game kills shaco, and yes he always starts at red, and it is the safest, however if you do get to start at blue its the quickest and most mana efficient since you can gank without mana starvation fear [/quote] Yeah, but it's because of Regi that starting at red with Shaco has become the "norm" therefore making it not the "safest". I find starting at blue to be much safer recently.[/quote]