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[quote=AnIh]yeah but in solo lane you face most of the time a powerful solo laner ie one that can regenerate health easy , its more the case when you are ranged againts a melee then yes its easy to deny gold to your opponent but most of the time mid is ranged vs ranged and top is melee vs melee so its not that easy to harass them when i solo with irelia i face some champs like renekton , and try to deny renekton gold whe he regenerate 20% of his life with his A/Q for no mana :/[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Renektons heal got nerfed btw. but I know what you mean. Personally I think Swains the strongest top solo laner[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]Swain is strong but you can always change your summoner spells to ignite when you see they pick him , combined with a good solo laner you can at least make him pay if he take too much risk :) But most of the time top solo is champion with great regen 1 vs champion with great regen 2 and you cant kill anybody whitout jungler help and even with it its hard to set up a gank . winning lane is more the ranged vs ranged then yes you can win a lane because ranged dont got life regen most of the time , and because its almost always mid lane its very easy to help / gank / counter jungle due to your position .[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]Hmm I am decent at last hitting, but I always have a problem.. which is when the enemies just auto my minions... they push so hard that there minions go near my turret, which is a problem when it comes to last hitting and also my turret takes damage... any solutions? besides auto attacking back to push the minions back xD?[/quote]

[quote=Riggsinator][quote=AnIh] Swain is strong but you can always change your summoner spells to ignite when you see they pick him , combined with a good solo laner you can at least make him pay if he take too much risk :) But most of the time top solo is champion with great regen 1 vs champion with great regen 2 and you cant kill anybody whitout jungler help and even with it its hard to set up a gank . winning lane is more the ranged vs ranged then yes you can win a lane because ranged dont got life regen most of the time , and because its almost always mid lane its very easy to help / gank / counter jungle due to your position . [/quote] If I find that I'm getting Ignite focused a lot on swain, I just buy a QSS. Problem solved![/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Dante Rebellion] Hmm I am decent at last hitting, but I always have a problem.. which is when the enemies just auto my minions... they push so hard that there minions go near my turret, which is a problem when it comes to last hitting and also my turret takes damage... any solutions? besides auto attacking back to push the minions back xD? [/quote] It's actually a good idea to push harder if they're pushing the wave. If you're up against a Mordekaiser, you can't just be last-hitting. It's vital to control the wave so that it's pushed closer to your tower, but not within tower range. If you look at HSGG play, he autoattacks a lot between last hits.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=Adonikam] People don't realise this but the better players not only farm well but they harass the enemy out of gold an experience. These players "win" their lane and then proceed to help the other lanes win. Kinda like a butterfly effect. [/quote] When you face two players doing this well it swings the game so much ;-/[/quote]