Fiddle's drain got nerfed into the ground...DX

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I played a few games right after that last nerf-buff thing. In the co-op I found his drain (even with Spirit Visage to boost health gained) just didn't give back enough health to be worth the mana cost. I tried a real game where I went for the spirit visage early to give me some survivability and it didn't make any difference. The boost to AP ratios is so small...His ult isn't that much more powerful and he's so much easier to kill now. It seems like all you have to do is ignite him and he's dead, 30-40% is barely a trickle of health gained.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Never got around to try fiddle after patch, afraid they had ruined him like they ruined my GP ;< And this does not really help me calm down ;<[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I was pretty good with fiddle, he was my fave 3v3 champ. I used to get Visage so I could stay in lane longer, now I need it just to get by. It seems like he lost what little survivability he had to gain .05% or .10% on a couple of AP ratios that were already really shitty, movement speed, and some armor that doesn't really matter... You start out at 60% of the damage dealt regen-ed at the first rank. It ends up that you are one CC or ignite away from dead once they hit you for any significant portion of your health, because if they interrupt you partway through you've gained almost no health back and if they ignite it goes down to a trickle.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]yeah, but god is fiddles one of the most op champions in an aram game. max dark wind first and just spam it every chance you get. rack in kills.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]The change was in the right direction, but he might be a little under powered now.[/quote]

[quote=The Pope v600]Why get spirit visage? I realize it increases the health you get from healing stuff but i just think spell vamp is better. Just get an early hextech revolver and then turn that into a will of the ancients later. Spell vamp just got a buff and seems to be right at home on Fiddle. Give it a try might be good.[/quote]

[quote=Scrax][quote=caucheka] yeah, but god is fiddles one of the most op champions in an aram game. [/quote] I doubt Riot makes this game to cater towards ARAM games, though.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]The CDR, health, and regen buff are the main reasons for getting spirit visage on Fiddle. The MR is meh, but if you happen to be up against a caster it's nice. I tried rushing a hextech revolver too, it was even worse...then I had less health. A combo of the two worked really well, but rushing a hextech revolver left me very squishy. The main difference is that the Spirit visage bumps it up about a rank or so in percentage gained and WotA buffs the amount you get based on your damage. I just like Visage on Fiddle and I'm sure that's weird XD[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I think it's to the point where Fiddles has to jungle. There's no way drain is even close to viable in lane until level 5 of it.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]DX You mean I have to learn to jungle Fiddle all over again? f*ck[/quote]